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In your opinion, has Josh Allen surpassed Jim Kelly as the Buffalo Bills greatest quarterback?

He has to get to a SB 1st, let alone win

See: Favre/Rodgers in GB

CSKreager wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2026 7:45 pm He has to get to a SB 1st, let alone win

See: Favre/Rodgers in GB

True, Kelly still has the four conference championships. Though everyone chooses Rodgers over Favre except myself ... Favre still has one more conference championship over Rodgers.

Whats interesting is that other than Kelly, the other QBs failed against certain teams in postseason. Allen and the Bills have lost to the Chiefs four times. Favre and the Packers lost to the Cowboys three times. Rodgers and the Packers have lost to the 49ers four times. Even Kelly and the Bills have lost back-to-back SBs to Dallas.

I was thinking about this exact question actually yesterday. Answer: Not yet. He's well on his way and certainly will be someday. If he wins MVP or AFC championship this year then that would put him past Kelly.

I get a feeling the Bills and Chiefs could play again in postseason this year. If Allen can beat them, he could go all the way.

ChrisBabcock wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2026 9:24 pm I was thinking about this exact question actually yesterday. Answer: Not yet. He's well on his way and certainly will be someday. If he wins MVP or AFC championship this year then that would put him past Kelly.

You may be right on that. I'm thinking, however, that maybe just one SB berth for Josh along with an MVP, but the SB being a defeat, will still keep him behind Kelly. Now Josh winning a SB? That may make his case, adding even more if he's also SBMVP!

There's opining that Lamar is better than Dilfer and Flacco, and then there's Marino being better than Greise - and also some, Bart Starr himself included albeit some seeing it as modesty, that Favre was actually better than #15 upon winning SBXXXI, but IMO its more likely than not that Jim was good enough (he's a HOFer after all) that four-SBs-in-a-row ought to hold Josh to more years of further post-season advancement needing to be done. But, again, I could be wrong on that.

At some point does the has Joe Burrow surpassed Kenny Anderson or Boomer Esiason as the Bengals all-time QB? Each has taken their team to a Super Bowl.

saturdaysarebetter wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2026 2:40 pm At some point does the has Joe Burrow surpassed Kenny Anderson or Boomer Esiason as the Bengals all-time QB? Each has taken their team to a Super Bowl.

Super Bowl appearance: Each with one
SB performances: 1. Burrow 2. Anderson 3. Esiason
Hardest SB opponent: 1. Esiason, 2. Anderson, 3. Burrow
Pre-SB AFC CG performances: 1. Anderson/Burrow 3. Esiason
Hardest AFC opponent: 1. Burrow, 2. Esiason, 3. Anderson (I'm dinging the Chargers because of their lack of experience in extreme cold)
MVP: Anderson and Esiason
AP1: Anderson and Esiason

Led NFL in...
Yards: 2 - Anderson / 1 - Burrow / 0 - Esiason
TDs: 1 - Burrow (+ maybe 2026)
Rating: 4 - Anderson / 1 - Esiason / 0 - Burrow (+ maybe 2026)
Comp. %: 3 - Anderson / 1 - Burrow (+ maybe 2026) / 0 - Esiason
COMBINED: 9 - Anderson / 3 - Burrow (+ maybe 3 more this year) / 0 - Esiason

Bengals season records
Yards: Burrow, top 3
TDs: Burrow, top 3
Rating: Burrow, top 3
Comp. %: Burrow, top 3

Bengals career records
Yards: Anderson
TDs: Dalton
Rating: Burrow
Comp. %: Burrow

VERDICT: My guess is that as of now, Anderson holds this belt and means more to Bengals fans. But Burrow should be able to grab it, and obviously if he wins a Super Bowl, or even reaches a second, it's game over.

saturdaysarebetter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2026 5:53 pm In your opinion, has Josh Allen surpassed Jim Kelly as the Buffalo Bills greatest quarterback?

Ehhhh.... I don't think so. I do think he's better than Kelly, but he's got some ghastly playoff performances, especially last year, and Kelly's legacy is in the playoffs. So for now, Kelly.

needs a SB win-its that simple