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Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:22 pm
by JohnTurney
as biggest first-ballot snub. Tarkenton up there, too. I am sure there are others, but to me those are now the big 3

Re: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:40 pm
by Brian wolf
I still would go with Lenny Moore, Page and Dick Lane in retrospect, though Belichick is close. In the past he would wait till 2029? ... Ditka, Schmidt, Eller, Tunnell, Johnson, Taylor, Adderley, Bell, Robinson, Harrison, Youngblood, Haynes, Christiansen, Casper and Gates had to wait as well.

Re: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 9:03 pm
by rewing84
Brian wolf wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:40 pm I still would go with Lenny Moore, Page and Dick Lane in retrospect, though Belichick is close. In the past he would wait till 2029? ... Ditka, Schmidt, Eller, Tunnell, Johnson, Taylor, Adderley, Bell, Robinson, Harrison, Youngblood, Haynes, Christiansen, Casper and Gates had to wait as well.
dont forget about Tom Mack

Re: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:55 pm
by JohnTurney
Brian wolf wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:40 pm I still would go with Lenny Moore, Page and Dick Lane in retrospect, though Belichick is close. In the psast he would wait till 2029? ... Ditka, Schmidt, Eller, Tunnell, Johnson, Taylor, Adderley, Bell, Robinson, Harrison, Youngblood, Haynes, Christiansen, Casper and Gates had to wait as well.
some are close, but Tark broke Johnny U.'s records, Page was on Rushmore of DTs---of your list Schmidt, Tunnell and Lane stand out, but still think BB, and the Vikes are up a bit higher

Re: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:56 pm
by JohnTurney
rewing84 wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 9:03 pm
Brian wolf wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:40 pm I still would go with Lenny Moore, Page and Dick Lane in retrospect, though Belichick is close. In the past he would wait till 2029? ... Ditka, Schmidt, Eller, Tunnell, Johnson, Taylor, Adderley, Bell, Robinson, Harrison, Youngblood, Haynes, Christiansen, Casper and Gates had to wait as well.
dont forget about Tom Mack
Don't see him as first-ballot, just not consensus AP often enough...but that's me

Re: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2026 1:00 am
by readjack
JohnTurney wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:22 pm as biggest first-ballot snub. Tarkenton up there, too. I am sure there are others, but to me those are now the big 3
I'm looking at those two classes and I want to know how the voting worked. In '84, the year Tarkenton came on the ballot, Willie Brown was elected first-ballot and only two other moderns (Charley Taylor and Mike McCormack) got in. The PFHOF media guide doesn't list cut-downs so I don't know where Tarkenton fell.

In '87, the year Page came on the ballot, somehow they elected six moderns including three on the first ballot: Mean Joe, Jim Langer and Gene Upshaw. The other three were Csonka, Len Dawson and Maynard.

Re: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2026 2:41 am
by rewing84
readjack wrote: Fri Jan 30, 2026 1:00 am
JohnTurney wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:22 pm as biggest first-ballot snub. Tarkenton up there, too. I am sure there are others, but to me those are now the big 3
I'm looking at those two classes and I want to know how the voting worked. In '84, the year Tarkenton came on the ballot, Willie Brown was elected first-ballot and only two other moderns (Charley Taylor and Mike McCormack) got in. The PFHOF media guide doesn't list cut-downs so I don't know where Tarkenton fell.

In '87, the year Page came on the ballot, somehow they elected six moderns including three on the first ballot: Mean Joe, Jim Langer and Gene Upshaw. The other three were Csonka, Len Dawson and Maynard.
if i recall Csonka Got Elected on his 3rd try Dawson 7th try and Maynard 9th try can anyone confirm