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Best HC, '33-thru-'65, that didn't appear in a LCG?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:09 pm
by 74_75_78_79_
Jock Sutherland?
Considering his small sample size, there would have to be a better candidate. Or maybe not.
Without actually rolling up my sleeves and taking a dive, no teams hence HCs come to mind in that era that had a nice-enough run of winning seasons/2nd-place finishes at best.
Re: Best HC, '33-thru-'65, that didn't appear in a LCG?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:57 pm
by Sonny9
Jock Sutherland would be my guess too
Brooklyns last winning season was 1934. He got them to 8-3 and 7-4 in '40 and '41
Steelers were 5-5-1 and 8-4 under him in '46 and '47
Re: Best HC, '33-thru-'65, that didn't appear in a LCG?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 11:19 pm
by Sonny9
Jim Trimble won 7 games 3 years in a row for Philly before dropping to 4-7-1 in 1956
Al Davis 63-65 Raiders 10-4, 5-7-2, 8-5-1
Re: Best HC, '33-thru-'65, that didn't appear in a LCG?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 5:19 pm
by JuggernautJ
74_75_78_79_ wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:09 pm
Jock Sutherland?
Considering his small sample size, there would have to be a better candidate. Or maybe not.
Without actually rolling up my sleeves and taking a dive, no teams hence HCs come to mind in that era that had a nice-enough run of winning seasons/2nd-place finishes at best.
When I saw the title of this thread that is who immediately came to mind.
I'm sure it is because of my Pittsburgh ancestry. God, my dad loved that guy... he would get wistful whenever he mentioned Sutherland and his untimely passing. Dad wasn't an emotional guy but he did have a place in his heart for Jock.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... uthJo0.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_Sutherland
Re: Best HC, '33-thru-'65, that didn't appear in a LCG?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:22 pm
by Brian wolf
Is Potsy Clark in the HOF? If not, its because he left the Lions, similar to another Lion's coach still waiting to get elected.
Re: Best HC, '33-thru-'65, that didn't appear in a LCG?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:40 pm
by SeahawkFever
Brian wolf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:22 pm
Is Potsy Clark in the HOF? If not, its because he left the Lions, similar to another Lion's coach still waiting to get elected.
Ports Clark is not in Canton, however he won an NFL championship with Detroit.
Jock Sutherland has a career record of 12 games above .500; nobody who finished their head coaching career between 1933 and 1965 or earlier with no playoff appearances has a career record of more than five games over .500.
Re: Best HC, '33-thru-'65, that didn't appear in a LCG?
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:47 pm
by Bob Gill
SeahawkFever wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:40 pm
Jock Sutherland has a career record of 12 games above .500; nobody who finished their head coaching career between 1933 and 1965 or earlier with no playoff appearances has a career record of more than five games over .500.
The fact that he did with two chronic losers is certainly impressive.