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Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:03 pm
by Jay Z
Please someone write this book. I think this season deserves attention for its historic awfulness.
Other HOF bound QBs have managed success after departing their long time team. Tom Brady, of course. But Montana and Favre reached the playoffs too. Johnny Unitas didn't, though he'd already been sort of benched by the Colts, and didn't last the whole season with the Chargers, as they had a rookie Dan Fouts. Meanwhile, Rodgers is backed up by 35 year old Tyrod Taylor.
This is one of the NFL's worst offenses playing for the NFL's worst franchise at the moment (no winning records since 2015.) That Rodgers has his chosen, trusted veterans in Adams and Lazard just makes the whole thing like a lame ass revival of a Broadway play by some past their prime hoofer.
The Jets' defense is actually pretty decent. I'm assuming they are planning on drafting new QB for 2025? I really don't know at this point, though. For comical effect I'd welcome another Rodgers season I suppose, I'm not a Jets fan.
Rodgers' injury sort of screwed the Jets into giving this season a go, now Rodgers is just mediocre, it would make sense to have a young QB to give some snaps to though Rodgers probably put an edict through that the team couldn't do that.
Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:27 pm
by Brian wolf
Speculation that Rodgers could possibly follow Belichick to the Giants next season, if they were to offer the job. I think he will stay with the Jets ...
Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:39 pm
by JameisBrownston
Don't forget Stafford right after Brady, although he reduced to mediocre right afterward also. But that lightning striking twice really got the league excited about older stud QBs on a new team. Ever since, it's been Russ taking Denver on a ride to hell, and now Rodgers giving Jets fans a bad trip. I feel like Rodgers checks out easily when things aren't going his way. Honestly, he's not going to find a better situation on paper than NYJ if he tries to leave. No team that'd kick the tires on him has the kind of young core on both sides of the ball that they do. If he can't win more than 6 games with this team, I can't really see what's left for him. Sad way for a legend to go, if this is the last we see of him as a relevant name.
Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:44 pm
by Crazy Packers Fan
Knowing Rodgers too well, he will "run the table" to get the Jets to 8-9 and ruin their draft positioning for next year. And the cycle will continue with the most hopeless franchise in the NFL.
Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:29 am
by Jay Z
JameisBrownston wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:39 pm
Don't forget Stafford right after Brady, although he reduced to mediocre right afterward also. But that lightning striking twice really got the league excited about older stud QBs on a new team. Ever since, it's been Russ taking Denver on a ride to hell, and now Rodgers giving Jets fans a bad trip. I feel like Rodgers checks out easily when things aren't going his way. Honestly, he's not going to find a better situation on paper than NYJ if he tries to leave. No team that'd kick the tires on him has the kind of young core on both sides of the ball that they do. If he can't win more than 6 games with this team, I can't really see what's left for him. Sad way for a legend to go, if this is the last we see of him as a relevant name.
Rodgers has had many great attributes, but he was never without flaws. He was never the master of the two minute drill when you need that last minute score. Just taking the short dump offs was something he didn't want to do. He didn't force the ball either, interceptions weren't a problem. But he would throw the ball away or force it in a way where it wasn't intercepted but it wasn't caught either. That could be a lack of patience on his part.
Now on the other hand, if he needed to make some 30 yard throw, he had no equal there. If you're driving late it was almost better off to have him in that mode, have 30 seconds instead of 2 minutes.
Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:34 pm
by Brian wolf
Though it would be tempting to join another team, I still feel Rodgers will be back with the Jets and another HC. Great QBs dont want to end their careers like this. Besides, he already has Davante Adams with him, so might as well go out guns-a-blazin in 2025.
Could things have been totally different had Adams stayed with GB in 2022? At that time, similar to DeAndre Hopkins earlier with the Texans, Adams was on a clear path to the HOF but decided to leave the Packers as a free agent for the Raiders and his former QB, Derek Carr. Hopkins of course, was traded from the Texans.
Though Adams had another stellar season, while Rodgers and the Packers missed the playoffs, the Raiders would bench Carr at the end of the season before giving up on him. Adams has a decent season with a younger QB in 2023, but after trading speculation, finally joins the Jets this year. For Rodgers to leave or retire would put his own career through a crossroads but despite his talent, his actions with the Raiders, might make another team pause before obtaining him.
Had Adams stayed with the Packers in 2022, with the big play ability of Watson and Lazard staying a steady target, could the Packers had possibly kept either Philly or SF from making the SB?
Would Rodgers have never left the team?
Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:11 pm
by Jay Z
I can't imagine a decent coach taking the Jets job if he has to take Rodgers. Since 2021 MVP level it's decline, injury, another decline. What are the odds for 2025? Even if it's somehow okay, 2026 is likely to be worse. What decent coach would walk into that when you have a top pick?
Rodgers probably needs to go elsewhere. Maybe some other team needs a one year rental. But he's not going to be able to drag his posse around. Who knows if he wants to do that. If the Jets want to it would be kind of epic.
Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:58 pm
by JWL
Brian wolf wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:34 pm
Though it would be tempting to join another team, I still feel Rodgers will be back with the Jets and another HC. Great QBs dont want to end their careers like this. Besides, he already has Davante Adams with him, so might as well go out guns-a-blazin in 2025.
I think it would be most advantageous for the Jets from a salary cap perspective to cut Aaron Rodgers after June 1. Bringing Rodgers back for 2025 is dumb but the Jets are dumb so it could happen.
If anybody watched all the Jets games this season and concluded Rodgers hasn't been part of the problem, I would suggest that person see a doctor.
Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:33 am
by JuggernautJ
JWL wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:58 pm
If anybody watched all the Jets games this season and concluded Rodgers hasn't been part of the problem, I would suggest that person see a doctor.
Psychiatrist or Ophthalmologist?
(Or both...?)
I don't know why (and I'm not suggesting it would be a good move for them) but the Dolphins keep coming to mind when I read this thread.
Maybe because of the Tua situation or because of the receivers on the team.
Does anyone think Rodgers would accept a back-up job or the role of mentor?
(Personally I think he's looney as a tune and wouldn't go anywhere near him...)
Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:29 am
by Jay Z
I don't think any QBs at the MVP level are really useful as mentors or accept backup jobs. They are or were stars and expect to be treated as such. Maybe a young QB can learn from watching, maybe they don't make too much of a stink if the coach won't play them, but they aren't going to be Don Strock.