Goff goes 18/18 for 292 yards 2 TDs 0 INT, but not a perfect rating

[JohnTurney]

Goff ended wiht 155.8, short of the "perfect" 158.3

he maxed in completion % - 77.5
he made in yards per attempt 12.5
but had TD % of 11.1, max is 11.9% (11.875)

if there were no limits the rating would have been about 190.

Rating never meant to be for single games ---

but Goff set non-record records
Highest completion percentage, game 100.0% (15 or more attempts) NFL Record book uses 20 attempts as minimum

Most attempts, zero incompletions (18), game
previous Kurt Warner 10/10 in 2005.

but that's not a real record.

Then be bones it up with a safety ... not that it hurts passing, but it's a mistake ... going 18/18 indicates few, in any, mistakes on the night passing anyway

[Reaser]

Plus caught a TD, obviously. So 100% involved in the Lions 19 of 19 passing.

[JohnTurney]

Plus caught a TD, obviously. So 100% involved in the Lions 19 of 19 passing.

that would actually make it "perfect" raise his TD percent to above 11.9!

[Brian wolf]

Wild game ... why didnt the Seahawks challenge the two-point conversion that Metcalf might have caught?. His knee looked down before the pass interference call. Also, the Lions got away with a pass interference in the endzone.

[SeahawkFever]

Goff ended wiht 155.8, short of the "perfect" 158.3

he maxed in completion % - 77.5
he made in yards per attempt 12.5
but had TD % of 11.1, max is 11.9% (11.875)

if there were no limits the rating would have been about 190.

Rating never meant to be for single games ---

but Goff set non-record records
Highest completion percentage, game 100.0% (15 or more attempts) NFL Record book uses 20 attempts as minimum

Most attempts, zero incompletions (18), game
previous Kurt Warner 10/10 in 2005.

but that's not a real record.

Then be bones it up with a safety ... not that it hurts passing, but it's a mistake ... going 18/18 indicates few, in any, mistakes on the night passing anyway

Seahawks fan, and I’d say Goff had an incredible game.

Our defense didn’t look very good in the game from what I recall.

I recall reading somewhere that if you average 14 pass attempts per game then you are eligible to lead the league in passer rating.

If so, then why not give him the perfect completion percentage record?

Also, if we are talking about performances that would break 158.3 with no limits to the components of the stat, then two that deserve mention are Fran Tarkenton in week 6 of 1970 vs the Cardinals (as I mentioned in a previous thread), and Len Dawson in the 1963 season opener vs the Broncos.

I’d have to double check my math, but the latter would be 234 or so on 15 attempts, and Tarkenton nearly 229 in 18 attempts.

Of course the reason why Tark’s game stood out to me in comparison to others is how well the defense he was facing played that year. The passer rating they allowed on defense was I believe the sixth best that year, and with Tarkenton’s game removed, they allowed an opposing passer rating of about 51 over the other 13 games.

As for the Seahawks defense this year, still a lot of season left to be played, but I have a feeling we could at the very least go down as better than the typical defense that gives up a historic performance like the one Goff just displayed.

Most defenses that give up perfect passer ratings or near perfect ones are pretty bad, some of them some of the worst in their respective seasons.

[JameisBrownston]

I wonder why the limiters haven't been taken off the passer rating formula by now, with how much passing efficiency has escalated? What purpose are they serving at this point?

[JohnTurney]

I wonder why the limiters haven't been taken off the passer rating formula by now, with how much passing efficiency has escalated? What purpose are they serving at this point?

the rating was never meant for single games ... it was meant to find a seasonal passing champion. There was such a mishmash before, inverse ranking of the same 4 categories, before that yards per attempt ...

it was meant only to roughly even out the four categories --- make them have about equal weight --- which is why some items were multiplied by 4 and 5, etc.

Changing it now would invalidate all the ones that came before and would change some records.

Anyway, how much do people pay attention to the passer rating anyway?

[SeahawkFever]

I wonder why the limiters haven't been taken off the passer rating formula by now, with how much passing efficiency has escalated? What purpose are they serving at this point?

Anyway, how much do people pay attention to the passer rating anyway?

These days in my experience when people are talking about the performances of quarterbacks, the stats they put up are frequently cited, and I see a lot of people mentioning passer rating and pro football reference’s adjusted net yards per attempt often.

Stats are great to factor in, but they aren’t everything.

In particular, with how often they are quoted, factors of the game that are not quantifiable tend to get overlooked.

Not to mention if you don’t acknowledge what generation of the game we are in at the time, and are just quoting the raw rating, then you can easily come to an illogical conclusion. Ex: A passer rating in the 80’s would be very good in the 1970’s, but not nowadays.

I’m doing other things in my free time of late, but when I get around to it, I’ll share what my metric for team pass offense and pass defense showed.

[JohnTurney]

These days in my experience when people are talking about the performances of quarterbacks, the stats they put up are frequently cited, and I see a lot of people mentioning passer rating and pro football reference’s adjusted net yards per attempt often.

Sometimes selective. When it's Ken Anderson the passer rating is the majority of his case --- "4 passing titles" along with his MVP ... but several other QBs have MVPs but really, it's the QBR that gives him the edge -- IMO, the actually passing titles be cause it can be easily understood

[JameisBrownston]

If it was meant for seasonal use, what was the point of the limiters in the first place? I'm pretty sure there has never been a qualifying player-season that triggered any of the limiters for any of the component stats. I don't even know if Joe Burrow's 2020 LSU season reaches any.

(Edit: He does not, although he comes close in Comp% and TD%. His rating was 143.7)