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he's been 2nd team a couple of times ... and 5 Pro Bowls, which given WRs ... is not a lot ..
they pick 4 to begin with and a lot of them miss Pro Bowls, it seems.

Tory Holt added 3 Pro Bowls to resume by being a 1st alternate and a guy ahead of him injured--

But Evans, the consecutive 1,000-yard seasons ... though all in 16 or 17-game seasons. Obnly a few are "big" seasons
of maybe 1,200 or 1,300 + yards

But he's already 13th all-time in TDs -- a handful of years at even 5-6-7-8 TDs puts him super high in rankings. If he
does what he's been doing lately ... could get incredibly high ...

Never thought he was any kind of HOFer, I mean, marginally because of TDs ... but he's compiling numbers
and he's only 31 ....

He's a compiler. I wouldn't put him anywhere near the HOF.

ChrisBabcock wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:24 pm He's a compiler. I wouldn't put him anywhere near the HOF.

That's the thing ...

however there are a couple of WR compliers in the HOF and not for TDs, for receptions -- we can all name them, I think

TDs should hold higher value but not sure they do.

I don't think he's there (HOF) but I was thinking about 4-5 years from now and he was 125 or more TD receptions. Compiling those
will make his case legit I would guess - though cannot be sure

ChrisBabcock wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:24 pm He's a compiler. I wouldn't put him anywhere near the HOF.

Could Evans be Hall of Very Good as a receiver?

JohnTurney wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 5:55 pm

ChrisBabcock wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:24 pm He's a compiler. I wouldn't put him anywhere near the HOF.

That's the thing ...

however there are a couple of WR compliers in the HOF and not for TDs, for receptions -- we can all name them, I think

TDs should hold higher value but not sure they do.

I don't think he's there (HOF) but I was thinking about 4-5 years from now and he was 125 or more TD receptions. Compiling those
will make his case legit I would guess - though cannot be sure

I should clarify my earlier statement. I wouldn't necessarily disqualify someone from the Hall solely because they're a compiler. I guess the question is what else happened during their career while they were doing thf compiling. Another look at Evans' career. He's had only TWO seasons of 80 plus receptions. Which is fairly meh in this day and age. A guy like Frank Gore though, who was probably never a top 3 RB, finished as the #3 career rusher. But maybe often top 5. So his longevity in high quality play is potentially worth honoring.

ChrisBabcock wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:56 pm
I should clarify my earlier statement. I wouldn't necessarily disqualify someone from the Hall solely because they're a compiler. I guess the question is what else happened during their career while they were doing thf compiling. Another look at Evans' career. He's had only TWO seasons of 80 plus receptions. Which is fairly meh in this day and age. A guy like Frank Gore though, who was probably never a top 3 RB, finished as the #3 career rusher. But maybe often top 5. So his longevity in high quality play is potentially worth honoring.

All true, he had one "monster" season. That's all -- one that in maybe another year would have made him 1st team All-Pro. I have no idea what will happen but just wondering if his TD total, if it gets to 125+ will put him over the top of a "HOVG" career.

Evans is a compiler ... of TDs. Doesn't matter if it's from Brady, Winston, Fitzpatrick, Glennon or McCown, counting postseason, he is averaging 10 TDs a season. If he can stay healthy and get beyond 125, he will make the HOF ...

Being a big receiver, his career is similar to Cris Carter, without the hands of course, but Carter had better complimentary receivers. Imagine if Vincent Jackson had not succumbed to injuries in 2015-16 for the Bucs?

I remember reading in the 2022 Record and Fact book that if Evans got 1,000 yards that season, he would be the only player in history other than Jerry Rice to gain 1,000 yards his first nine seasons. And only Jerry Rice and Tim Brown had ever gotten 9 straight. Now, Evans is at 10 straight and has a chance to tie and possibly even exceed Rice in that category.

Evans is nowhere near the receiver that Rice or Tim Brown was. BUT - 10 straight years of 1,000 yards? And as someone pointed out, with many different QBs - not to mention coaches. He has never been a premier receiver IMHO, but when you get somebody who has done something that only Jerry Rice has done, that's impressive. I know the game is different now, and there is one more game than in Rice's day, but Evans has still averaged 75 yards per game over 10 years. Yes, he's compiled stats but he's CONSISTENTLY compiled stats. There are a lot of guys in the Hall who put up some big seasons and then had a few lackluster years and they're clearly HOF. Evans is not what I'd consider an all-time great like Raymond Berry or Rice or Brown, but it's difficult (IMHO) to say that he would be a poor choice for the HOF based on a level of consistency that has been mostly unmatched in history.

Stats and a ring, he has good odds based on PFHOF standards.

Also, surely whoever is arguing his case "in the room" will say PFF named him 1st-team All-Pro and that they had him graded as the best WR in 2016.

Wouldn't be in 'my' HOF but based on what the PFHOF is, good shot.

That's the problem with modern receivers, who really stands out?
Was Calvin Johnson or Andre Johnson really that much better than Holt, Wayne, Boldin, Smith or Ward? Then there is Antonio Brown, who became a great player before hits to the head and larger contracts affected his play.

Some voters seem to think that numbers and milestones can get receivers elected, whether they stood out or not. Longevity has to factor in as well. If a player stays healthy and compiles, how can we truly knock him? Tim Brown and Terrell Owens compiled just as Fitzgerald did, but while Fitzgerald may be first ballot, others like Evans will have to wait. Julio Jones may have been more gifted but doesn't come close to matching his TDs. Tough to truly separate them in this inflated age, with defenses more handcuffed than ever.