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Rules Experts...Explain?

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:13 pm
by Hail Casares
This is one of those things I feel like I should know, but don't, and it's become common in the football world.

Why, when a RB is in the backfield is he allowed to move forward prior to going in motion laterally? Why is a TE who is inline allowed to step back and then go in motion laterally? Would not both of these constitute (technically) a false start? Would it not then be possible for anytime a RB or TE "false starts" to just continue the lean forward or step back, and go in motion and it's legal?

What's the loophole or explanation that allows for this?

Re: Rules Experts...Explain?

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:23 pm
by Brian wolf
I think its because a RB or TE isnt considered "set" yet. It can be close and confusing though. I saw alot of offensive tackles moving before the snap yesterday but its not being called.

Re: Rules Experts...Explain?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:31 pm
by PA Wingman
Hail Casares wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:13 pm This is one of those things I feel like I should know, but don't, and it's become common in the football world.

Why, when a RB is in the backfield is he allowed to move forward prior to going in motion laterally? Why is a TE who is inline allowed to step back and then go in motion laterally? Would not both of these constitute (technically) a false start? Would it not then be possible for anytime a RB or TE "false starts" to just continue the lean forward or step back, and go in motion and it's legal?

What's the loophole or explanation that allows for this?
The movement forward by a back or backward by a tight end constitutes a shift before going in motion. It is done deliberately and the player in motion's movement does not simulate movement at the snap.

Re: Rules Experts...Explain?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:13 pm
by Hail Casares
PA Wingman wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:31 pm
Hail Casares wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:13 pm This is one of those things I feel like I should know, but don't, and it's become common in the football world.

Why, when a RB is in the backfield is he allowed to move forward prior to going in motion laterally? Why is a TE who is inline allowed to step back and then go in motion laterally? Would not both of these constitute (technically) a false start? Would it not then be possible for anytime a RB or TE "false starts" to just continue the lean forward or step back, and go in motion and it's legal?

What's the loophole or explanation that allows for this?
The movement forward by a back or backward by a tight end constitutes a shift before going in motion. It is done deliberately and the player in motion's movement does not simulate movement at the snap.
That doesn't really make sense though. A RB 99% of the time moves forward at the snap. A TE can step back into pass protection.