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Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:00 pm
by Shipley
Two examples to start the discussion, the receiving corps of the late 60s Redskins (Bobby Mitchell, Charley Taylor and Jerry Smith) and Eagles (Ben Hawkins, Harold Carmichael, Harold Jackson).

Re: Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:39 pm
by bachslunch
Would the Saints Dome Patrol LB corps of Sam Mills, Vaughan Johnson, Rickey Jackson, and Pat Swilling qualify?

Re: Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:04 pm
by conace21
bachslunch wrote:Would the Saints Dome Patrol LB corps of Sam Mills, Vaughan Johnson, Rickey Jackson, and Pat Swilling qualify?
The Saints never had a losing season between 1987 and 1993. (They were 8-8 twice.)

Re: Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:30 am
by Jay Z
Offensive line of 1973 San Diego Chargers. Carl Mauck, Walt Sweeney, Doug Wilkerson, Russ Washington, Terry Owens. Great, veteran group on a lousy team. Four of the five came back the next year and were a big part of Don Woods' surprising rookie season.

Re: Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:23 am
by 7DnBrnc53
1981 Baltimore Colts: Had Curtis Dickey and Randy McMillan at RB.

Re: Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:40 am
by JameisLoseston
The legendary Smith/Frederick/Martin etc. Cowboys O lines of recent years come to mind, couple winning seasons in there but these guys have been together a long time now on mostly highly mediocre Jason Garrett coached Cowboys teams.

Re: Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:27 am
by Rupert Patrick
Shane Lechler and Sebastian Janikowski on a lot of those bad Raiders teams after the Super Bowl loss to Tampa Bay.

Re: Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:45 am
by conace21
The 1-15 Jets had Keyshawn Johnson, Jeff Graham, Wayne Chrebet, and Webster Slaughter at WR.

Re: Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:43 pm
by Shipley
Buffalo Bills' 1968 secondary, holdovers from their championship teams -- Butch Byrd, Booker Edgerson, George Saimes and Tom Janik. Had three pick sixes off Joe Namath in their only win of the season.

Re: Good Position Groups on Bad Teams

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:00 pm
by JKelly
Late 70's Giants LBs

Harry Carson, Brad Van Pelt & Brian Kelley

Switched to 3-4 in 79' Dan lloyd was the fourth so he didn't help make them better.