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Thought he was black, card and photos do not support my thought. Was he mulatto?

BTW, I had this card as a kid and thought Isaac Curtis was white.

Well, there's always the infamous Garland Boyette card issued in the 1964 Philadelphia set. The picture wasn't even Boyette (who was black) but center Don Gillis (white). Links:

https://www.footballcardgallery.com/196 ... d_Boyette/

http://yadiermolinabaseballcards.blogsp ... ng-in.html

The first is the 1964 card, the second is a 1970s card for Boyette when he played for the Oilers.

Saldi I was familiar with. It has happened to me with others.

Herb Travenio. Never knew he was black. Especially being a kicking specialist.

Bryan wrote:
Thought he was black, card and photos do not support my thought. Was he mulatto?

Saldi is an Italian surname.

Jay was born in NY, as was his father.

His paternal grandparents were both born in Italy.

Not sure about his maternal side, but probably just a Mediterranean complexion.

Bryan wrote:

BTW, I had this card as a kid and thought Isaac Curtis was white.

What gets me is that Issac Curtis actually signed this card that had his somebody else's picture on it. I remember back in the 80's getting Phil Garner to autograph a 1982 Fleer baseball card for me, and the card was an error, which was a reverse negative of him throwing the ball left-handed and he looked at me oddly and chuckled as he signed the card.

Along these lines (black-white) check out Sherman Lollar's 1950 Bowman baseball card.
https://www.ebay.com/i/132880820826?chn=ps

Rupert Patrick wrote:

Bryan wrote:

BTW, I had this card as a kid and thought Isaac Curtis was white.

What gets me is that Issac Curtis actually signed this card that had his somebody else's picture on it...

I think that actually is Issac Curtis. The mustache is kind of unmistakable.
The printing is at fault. It was (is?) not uncommon to print black people lighter to make them "friendlier" to the white population.
Recall, if you will, the SI covers featuring Tyra Banks...

JuggernautJ wrote:The printing is at fault. It was (is?) not uncommon to print black people lighter to make them "friendlier" to the white population.
Recall, if you will, the SI covers featuring Tyra Banks...

On the opposite end of that spectrum is Time's infamous decision to darken O.J. Simpson's picture for their cover story on his capture in 1994.

BD Sullivan wrote:

JuggernautJ wrote:The printing is at fault. It was (is?) not uncommon to print black people lighter to make them "friendlier" to the white population.
Recall, if you will, the SI covers featuring Tyra Banks...

On the opposite end of that spectrum is Time's infamous decision to darken O.J. Simpson's picture for their cover story on his capture in 1994.

I happen to be a trial junkie, going back to Manson. I followed the Simpson criminal trial coverage daily. Whatever you think of this Time cover, from first to last, the media coverage picked away constantly at the prosecution case. And as Jeffrey Toobin acknowledged in his New Yorker article after the verdict, Toobin and colleagues never pointed out (during the trial) the evidence of Simpson's guilt was "overwhelming."

That is Isaac Curtis he is a lighter skinned black man and Jay Saldi is white.