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Forget about SD, how bout 'RAIDERS vs Bears', 1963??
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:13 pm
by 74_75_78_79_
Yes they got swept by 7-6-1 Pats, who Chargers would clobber in Title Game, but that was early. After that 2-4 start, the Raiders win their final eight games, two of those wins vs SD (the latter of both a convincer). Smack in the middle of that 8-0 finish was an unintended two-week bye, first of both weeks was already scheduled, the second of both due to all games being post-poned due to Kennedy assassination. Raiders didn't let it disrupt momentum. The obvious difference between the '63 Chargers/Raiders and '99 Jags/Titans is that SD lucked-out not having to meet Oakland in the post-season.
Al Davis vs Halas! Who wins?
Re: Forget about SD, how bout 'RAIDERS vs Bears', 1963??
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:27 pm
by sheajets
Curious how the Bears managed to lose to the 2-12 Niners that year.
The Bears D was legit in 1963, I don't think Flores and Art Powell would be enough. The Raiders may have been on an 8 game run but their defense was playing frighteningly bad by the end of 63
Raiders just seemed like a fast and loose bunch who would've lost soundly to the Bears.
Re: Forget about SD, how bout 'RAIDERS vs Bears', 1963??
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:00 pm
by BD Sullivan
sheajets wrote:Curious how the Bears managed to lose to the 2-12 Niners that year.
The Bears D was legit in 1963, I don't think Flores and Art Powell would be enough. The Raiders may have been on an 8 game run but their defense was playing frighteningly bad by the end of 63
Raiders just seemed like a fast and loose bunch who would've lost soundly to the Bears.
They won their last game over the Oilers, 52-49.
Re: Forget about SD, how bout 'RAIDERS vs Bears', 1963??
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:46 pm
by rhickok1109
BD Sullivan wrote:sheajets wrote:Curious how the Bears managed to lose to the 2-12 Niners that year.
The Bears D was legit in 1963, I don't think Flores and Art Powell would be enough. The Raiders may have been on an 8 game run but their defense was playing frighteningly bad by the end of 63
Raiders just seemed like a fast and loose bunch who would've lost soundly to the Bears.
They won their last game over the Oilers, 52-49.
The only real question is how many interceptions would Flores have thrown against the Bears? At least 5, probably more.
Re: Forget about SD, how bout 'RAIDERS vs Bears', 1963??
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:37 pm
by SixtiesFan
BD Sullivan wrote:sheajets wrote:Curious how the Bears managed to lose to the 2-12 Niners that year.
The Bears D was legit in 1963, I don't think Flores and Art Powell would be enough. The Raiders may have been on an 8 game run but their defense was playing frighteningly bad by the end of 63
Raiders just seemed like a fast and loose bunch who would've lost soundly to the Bears.
They won their last game over the Oilers, 52-49.
I recall watching the 52-49 game on TV. I don't think the 1963 Raiders would have beaten the 1963 Bears in a championship game situation.
Re: Forget about SD, how bout 'RAIDERS vs Bears', 1963??
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:12 pm
by Todd Pence
The 1963 Raiders might have been victimized by the most unjust postseason snub in history. They won two and a half games more than the Bills and Patriots, who tied for the Eastern Division lead.
Other teams have encumbered by a tough division missed the postseason while finishing with much better records than others who have made it by winning a weak division. But consider this: In the AFL's first five years, although the teams were sequestered into Eastern and Western division, all of them played a total round-robin home-and-away schedule against each of the other teams in the league as opposed to a schedule weighted towards their divisional opponents. So the Patriots got to the title game (after disposing of the Bills in a tiebreaker playoff) by being named a division champion, even though the schedule rendered divisional alignments totally arbitrary.