Pro Football Its Ups and Downs

[arnieherber]

Does anyone know how many copies of this book were published for the 1934 edition? It is my understanding that 100 copies of the book were distributed to various members of the teams who were in the league at that time. Also, was the 1939 edition compiled to correct errors in the 1934 edition, or was it simply an update of the game at that time?

[rhickok1109]

Does anyone know how many copies of this book were published for the 1934 edition? It is my understanding that 100 copies of the book were distributed to various members of the teams who were in the league at that time. Also, was the 1939 edition compiled to correct errors in the 1934 edition, or was it simply an update of the game at that time?

I have no idea how many were published, but I do know it was advertised for sale to the general public through the New York Giants.

[TanksAndSpartans]

I can’t answer the questions, but I think this is an interesting topic. This may be the one for the Steelers:

http://www.calibanbooks.com/pages/books ... -by-arthur

Amazon has one for 150, which isn’t terrible, but I’m still trying to finish reading less expensive books. I'd definitely like to read it though.

I think this is the book that offended Jim Thorpe because it said he played with metal in his shoulder pads. Also, books like Pigskin and other sources like Chris Willis’ top 100, etc. consistently note the inaccuracies, so its dissuaded me from making this a personal must read, but I think there are still question marks in early pro football history - times you have to reconcile the rumor with the newspaper account, etc. - one I've been wondering about recently is Knute Rockne as a pro player - one book I read has him as one of the top Ends in the early pro game playing games for pro teams from 14-17 and another as just an average player who had a huge college game against Army, but only played a game or two in the pros, and was actually impersonated in many pro games. I wonder what March's book says (I'm guessing there must be some grains of truth in the book)....

Are you interested as a collector?

[rhickok1109]

I can’t answer the questions, but I think this is an interesting topic. This may be the one for the Steelers:

http://www.calibanbooks.com/pages/books ... -by-arthur

Amazon has one for 150, which isn’t terrible, but I’m still trying to finish reading less expensive books. I'd definitely like to read it though.

I think this is the book that offended Jim Thorpe because it said he played with metal in his shoulder pads. Also, books like Pigskin and other sources like Chris Willis’ top 100, etc. consistently note the inaccuracies, so its dissuaded me from making this a personal must read, but I think there are still question marks in early pro football history - times you have to reconcile the rumor with the newspaper account, etc. - one I've been wondering about recently is Knute Rockne as a pro player - one book I read has him as one of the top Ends in the early pro game playing games for pro teams from 14-17 and another as just an average player who had a huge college game against Army, but only played a game or two in the pros, and was actually impersonated in many pro games. I wonder what March's book says (I'm guessing there must be some grains of truth in the book)....

Are you interested as a collector?

There is a recent paperback reprint available for about 20 bucks, so that's the way to go for someone interested in the content and not in book collector mode.

[TanksAndSpartans]

Thanks - 20 bucks is definitely reasonable - do you recall where you saw that?

[rhickok1109]

Thanks - 20 bucks is definitely reasonable - do you recall where you saw that?

http://www.booksamillion.com/search?id= ... &where=All

[JeffreyMiller]

Thanks - 20 bucks is definitely reasonable - do you recall where you saw that?

http://www.booksamillion.com/search?id= ... &where=All

Since it was written by Harry March, it's not surprising that the Giants were pushing it ...

[TanksAndSpartans]

Thanks - 20 bucks is definitely reasonable - do you recall where you saw that?

http://www.booksamillion.com/search?id= ... &where=All

Thanks!

[Mark Durr]

Thanks - 20 bucks is definitely reasonable - do you recall where you saw that?

http://www.booksamillion.com/search?id= ... &where=All

Thanks!

A word of warning before anyone places an order for this. Bookvika Publishing, the so-called publisher of this "book,” is notorious for its print on demand, repackaging of Wikipedia articles:

http://brianbusby.blogspot.com/2013/03/ ... mazon.html

Both the "authors" listed, Jesse Russell and Ronald Cohn, are impossibly prolific. Click on the link for either of them and you'll see tens of thousands of matches for the different titles they've "written." Once you click buy on anything attributed to the two, an automated bot (or computer script) goes to the appropriate Wikipedia page, copies the text and pours it into a template that's then printed in book form and shipped out to you. Also note that Books A Million will not refund this item once it's been bought.

[rhickok1109]

A word of warning before anyone places an order for this. Bookvika Publishing, the so-called publisher of this "book,” is notorious for its print on demand, repackaging of Wikipedia articles:

http://brianbusby.blogspot.com/2013/03/ ... mazon.html

Both the "authors" listed, Jesse Russell and Ronald Cohn, are impossibly prolific. Click on the link for either of them and you'll see tens of thousands of matches for the different titles they've "written." Once you click buy on anything attributed to the two, an automated bot (or computer script) goes to the appropriate Wikipedia page, copies the text and pours it into a template that's then printed in book form and shipped out to you. Also note that Books A Million will not refund this item once it's been bought.

Thanks for that warning, Mark. I had no idea and there's certainly no clue in the listing of the book.