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Wednesday, July 6, 2016
New York Jets All Career-Year Team
OPINION
By John Turney

special teams choices for now

Mine were (1st team first, then 2nd team)
K- Nick Folk 2013, Jim Turner 1968
P- Curley Johnson 1965, Tom Tupa 2000
PR- Leon Johnson 1997, Santana Moss 2002
KR- Justin Miller 2006, Leon Washington 2007
ST- Chris Burkett 1991, Ken Rose 1989

So, we agreed at several of these spots. There were differences at "ST", though. Chris Burkett was voted as the team MVP in 1991 largely based on superior play on special teams. Ken Rose was a special teams dynamo for a few years with the Jets. Also, Wallace Wright in 2009 was really good.

Glad you're getting back to these. These are fun to read.

JWL wrote:special teams choices for now

Mine were (1st team first, then 2nd team)
K- Nick Folk 2013, Jim Turner 1968
P- Curley Johnson 1965, Tom Tupa 2000
PR- Leon Johnson 1997, Santana Moss 2002
KR- Justin Miller 2006, Leon Washington 2007
ST- Chris Burkett 1991, Ken Rose 1989

So, we agreed at several of these spots. There were differences at "ST", though. Chris Burkett was voted as the team MVP in 1991 largely based on superior play on special teams. Ken Rose was a special teams dynamo for a few years with the Jets. Also, Wallace Wright in 2009 was really good.

Good calls on those STs, IYDM I will add them, will check on Ken Rose, he was Eag;e, too. As I have said, your picks are as good as mine...Burkett was 2nd on tea, in ST tackles in 1991 and had the only blocked punt. Rose had more ST tackes in 1989 (over 30) but I mentioned him as rusher...

ChrisBabcock wrote:Glad you're getting back to these. These are fun to read.

Thanks, I have most of the picks, but the prose is what I struggle with.

My selections (1st team, then 2nd team)-
LT- Jason Fabini 2002, Chris Ward 1981
LG- Alan Faneca 2008, Bob Mischak 1961
C- Nick Mangold 2009, Kevin Mawae 2001
RG- Dave Herman 1968, Randy Thomas 2002
RT- Marvin Powell 1979, Winston Hill 1972
TE- Richard Caster 1975, Mickey Shuler 1985
QB- Vinny Testaverde 1998, Joe Namath 1968
FB- John Riggins 1975, Matt Snell 1964
RB- Freeman McNeil 1982, Thomas Jones 2008
RB- Curtis Martin 2004, Emerson Boozer 1973
3rd down RB- Bruce Harper 1980, Bilal Powell 2015
WR- George Sauer 1968, Brandon Marshall 2015
WR- Don Maynard 1967, Al Toon 1986
3rd WR- Wesley Walker 1978, Keyshawn Johnson 1998

DE- Joe Klecko 1981, Muhammad Wilkerson 2015
DE- Mark Gastineau 1983, Gerry Philbin 1968
DT- Dennis Byrd 1990, Damon Harrison 2015
DT- John Elliott 1969, Sheldon Richardson 2014
NT- Joe Klecko 1985, Kris Jenkins 2008
ILB- David Harris 2009, Al Atkinson 1968
LOLB- Mo Lewis 1997, Bobby Houston 1993
ROLB- Lance Mehl 1983, Larry Grantham 1964
CB- Darrelle Revis 2009, Aaron Glenn 1997
CB- Antonio Cromartie 2012, Bobby Jackson 1982
SS- Dainard Paulson 1964, Brian Washington 1992
FS- Darrol Ray 1981, Erik McMillan 1989
Nickel CB- Ray Mickens 1998, Marcus Williams 2015
DPR- John Abraham 2001, Hugh Douglas 1995

K- Nick Folk 2013, Jim Turner 1968
P- Curley Johnson 1965, Tom Tupa 2000
PR- Leon Johnson 1997, Santana Moss 2002
KR- Justin Miller 2006, Leon Washington 2007
ST- Chris Burkett 1991, Ken Rose 1989

Notes- I went with Riggins and Snell at FB but John Turney selected guys who are used the ways fullbacks operate now. I could have easily selected a D'Brickashaw Ferguson season over Fabini or Ward at left tackle. As for Mo Lewis and Aaron Glenn, I went with their 1997 seasons over their 1998 ones. It was a tough call because I believe they played at a high level each season. Erik McMillan 1988 or 1989 was similar.

I had completed my Jets team at least a month before the post went up at the PFJ blog. I did not have a separate spot for nose tackles. So I made adjustments. Initially I had:
DE- Gastineau '83, Wilkerson '15
DE- Klecko '81, Philbin '68
DT- Klecko '85, Jenkins '08
DT- Elliott '69; Richardson '14
Therefore, Byrd and Harrison were the additions to my team.
There is also the fact that Wilkerson '15 could have been considered a DT and I could have put Harrison at NT. Sione Pouha '10 also received strong consideration.

I originally had Donnie Abraham '04 as 2nd team nickel cornerback although he didn't play nickel with the Jets much. So, keeping it to true nickel backs, I put Williams in there.

At first, I had Wayne Chrebet '98 as a "slot" receiver but I decided to change it to simply "3rd WR" and picked the two best WR seasons outside of Sauer, Maynard, Toon and Marshall.

It was a fun exercise but not easy and I still find myself questioning some of my choices. To compare Fabini '02 vs Ferguson '10 and Ward '81 properly you'd probably have to sit down with an offensive line coach and have him try to grade all the plays. Or something.

Those are good picks, the tackles are interesting. And you cannot go wrong choosing Sauer above the ones I went with. Maybard stood out, aftr that it was very close. I have been going with the "guards in the backfield" for fullbacks, not the classic FB and HB set up...it will really affect the Bills as I will have to put Cookie on 2nd team for RB, even though he was a split back FB, rather than the I back with a blocker on front.

JohnTurney wrote:Those are good picks, the tackles are interesting. And you cannot go wrong choosing Sauer above the ones I went with. Maybard stood out, aftr that it was very close. I have been going with the "guards in the backfield" for fullbacks, not the classic FB and HB set up...it will really affect the Bills as I will have to put Cookie on 2nd team for RB, even though he was a split back FB, rather than the I back with a blocker on front.

Your fullback selections were good. I likely would have gone the same route if I was also going the "guards in the backfield" route.