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'81 or '89 Chiefs?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:49 am
by 74_75_78_79_
Levy's best KC squad vs Marty's first. Both finishing just above 500. Delaney vs Okoye, Still vs Derrick. Who's best between these two? Were either - or both - actually a better Chief team than the very '86 Mackovic squad that actually did make the playoffs?
Side note - Three different HCs in the '80s did lead KC to a winning record. '70s Rams one better with FOUR HCs leading the franchise to a winning record in that period: Allen, Prothro, Knox, and Malavasi. Any other franchise with four winning HCs in a decade? Or at least three like KC?
Re: '81 or '89 Chiefs?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:13 am
by JWL
Jets of 2000s had Al Groh, Herman Edwards, Eric Mangini and Rex Ryan lead them to seasons with winning records.
Re: '81 or '89 Chiefs?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:31 am
by 74_75_78_79_
JWL wrote:Jets of 2000s had Al Groh, Herman Edwards, Eric Mangini and Rex Ryan lead them to seasons with winning records.
Very good. That one was right under my nose although I do remember Al Groh; and asking myself why he'd leave after just one (winning) year albeit the December collapse and he wanting to go back to his alma mater.
Re: '81 or '89 Chiefs?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:56 pm
by rhickok1109
74_75_78_79_ wrote:JWL wrote:Jets of 2000s had Al Groh, Herman Edwards, Eric Mangini and Rex Ryan lead them to seasons with winning records.
Very good. That one was right under my nose although I do remember Al Groh; and asking myself why he'd leave after just one (winning) year albeit the December collapse and he wanting to go back to his alma mater.
Parcells' abrasiveness and interference did it.
Re: '81 or '89 Chiefs?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:26 pm
by CSKreager
'81 team beat Denver/Tampa Bay + played the Chargers close. '89 team beat Houston/Green Bay, give the Broncos/Browns fits.
I got to go '81 because they were in a tougher AFC West and tougher conference (The AFC of 1989 gave us the only team since the merger to get a first-round bye WITHOUT 10 wins)
Re: '81 or '89 Chiefs?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:45 pm
by conace21
74_75_78_79_ wrote:Levy's best KC squad vs Marty's first. Both finishing just above 500. Delaney vs Okoye, Still vs Derrick. Who's best between these two? Were either - or both - actually a better Chief team than the very '86 Mackovic squad that actually did make the playoffs?
Side note - Three different HCs in the '80s did lead KC to a winning record. '70s Rams one better with FOUR HCs leading the franchise to a winning record in that period: Allen, Prothro, Knox, and Malavasi. Any other franchise with four winning HCs in a decade? Or at least three like KC?
The 1940's Redskins had four head coaches with winning seasons. It seems George Preston Marshall had a tendency to go through coaches. I'm sure WWII was a factor as well.
Ray Flaherty, Dutch Bergman, Dudley DeGroot and Turk Edwards.
The 1960's Raiders-Al Davis, John Rauch, John Madden
The 1990's Cowboys- Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey.
The 1990's Colts- Ted Marchibroda, Lindy Infante, Jim Mora
2000's Colts-Mora, Tony Dungy, and Jim Caldwell
Re: '81 or '89 Chiefs?
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:26 am
by BD Sullivan
conace21 wrote:74_75_78_79_ wrote:Levy's best KC squad vs Marty's first. Both finishing just above 500. Delaney vs Okoye, Still vs Derrick. Who's best between these two? Were either - or both - actually a better Chief team than the very '86 Mackovic squad that actually did make the playoffs?
Side note - Three different HCs in the '80s did lead KC to a winning record. '70s Rams one better with FOUR HCs leading the franchise to a winning record in that period: Allen, Prothro, Knox, and Malavasi. Any other franchise with four winning HCs in a decade? Or at least three like KC?
The 1940's Redskins had four head coaches with winning seasons. It seems George Preston Marshall had a tendency to go through coaches. I'm sure WWII was a factor as well.
Ray Flaherty, Dutch Bergman, Dudley DeGroot and Turk Edwards.
The 1960's Raiders-Al Davis, John Rauch, John Madden
The 1990's Cowboys- Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey.
The 1990's Colts- Ted Marchibroda, Lindy Infante, Jim Mora
2000's Colts-Mora, Tony Dungy, and Jim Caldwell
1980's Browns had Rutigliano, Marty and Bud Carson.
1970's Browns had Skorich, Gregg and Rutigliano--Blanton Collier's last season in 1970 was 7-7.