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Hernandez
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:05 pm
by LJP
Re: Hernandez
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:23 pm
by rhickok1109
The trial was conducted about 15 miles from where I live. Our D.A. resigned earlier this year to become mayor of Fall River, where the trial was held, and lawyer friends of mine speculated that he no longer wanted the job because he was afraid Hernandez would be found not guilty. However, I think the prosecution did an excellent job of presenting the case and it seemed like a strong case to me. It's an excellent example of the fact that circumstantial evidence, though it has a bad reputation, is often the best evidence. I have to wonder if the defense attorney made a serious mistake in his closing arguments by admitting that Hernandez was present when the murder took place, which could not be established by the prosecution. I'm sure there will be an appeal, but I don't see any solid grounds for any appeal to upheld, because most of the judge's major rulings favored the defense.
Re: Hernandez
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:34 pm
by oldecapecod11
I believe appeal of a Murder 1st conviction is mandatory in Massachusetts.
(If he is permitted to do so, it will be interesting to read what our own Jeremy has to offer in this matter.)
Re: Hernandez
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:28 pm
by SixtiesFan
rhickok1109 wrote:The trial was conducted about 15 miles from where I live. Our D.A. resigned earlier this year to become mayor of Fall River, where the trial was held, and lawyer friends of mine speculated that he no longer wanted the job because he was afraid Hernandez would be found not guilty. However, I think the prosecution did an excellent job of presenting the case and it seemed like a strong case to me. It's an excellent example of the fact that circumstantial evidence, though it has a bad reputation, is often the best evidence. I have to wonder if the defense attorney made a serious mistake in his closing arguments by admitting that Hernandez was present when the murder took place, which could not be established by the prosecution. I'm sure there will be an appeal, but I don't see any solid grounds for any appeal to upheld, because most of the judge's major rulings favored the defense.
I've corresponded with two former big-time prosecutors with the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office and am a long-time trial junkie. Circumstantial evidence is ALWAYS the best evidence. Direct evidence is eyewitness ID which is sometimes wrong.
DNA and fingerprints are circumstantial evidence and don't lie. Some people mistakenly think DNA and fingerprints are "direct" evidence, but are not.
Re: Hernandez
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:09 pm
by Rupert Patrick
I suppose that puts Hernandez on a list with Dontae Stallworth as active NFL players who have killed somebody.
Re: Hernandez
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:23 pm
by BD Sullivan
Rupert Patrick wrote:I suppose that puts Hernandez on a list with Dontae Stallworth as active NFL players who have killed somebody.
Technically, you can't include Orenthal, but...
Re: Hernandez
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:51 am
by conace21
BD Sullivan wrote:Rupert Patrick wrote:I suppose that puts Hernandez on a list with Dontae Stallworth as active NFL players who have killed somebody.
Technically, you can't include Orenthal, but...
Assuming you mean they took the life of another person while they were an active NFL player.
Brian Blades (acquitted in the shooting death of his cousin. It was ruled an accident)
Reggie Rodgers
Leonard Little
Rae Carruth (murder for hire)
Dwayne Goodrich
Jovan Belcher
Retired NFL players
Jim Tyrer
Tommy Kane
Robert Rozier
OJ and Jim Dunaway. Neither man convicted, but both lost wrongful death civil suits.
Apparently, Lawrence Phillips
Re: Hernandez
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:10 am
by Citizen
Eric Naposki
Jovan Belcher
Re: Hernandez
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:43 pm
by Jay Z
Chubby Grigg killed his own son, but was either acquitted or had a reduced charge and did not serve time.
Re: Hernandez
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:19 am
by conace21
Josh Brent and maybe Jeff Alm