All-Pro team should change to reflect the changing NFL
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All-Pro team should change to reflect the changing NFL
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 3, 2015, 7:35 AM EST
It’s time for changes on the All-Pro team.
The Associated Press has released its annual All-Pro team, and although other organizations release their own All-Pro teams, the AP version is generally recognized as the “official” All-Pro team for the NFL. Unfortunately, that All-Pro team is flawed.
We’ve already noted the odd fact that the AP will not yet release the names of the 50 voters who put the All-Pro team together, and that some of the votes were highly questionable. But there’s a more fundamental flaw than that.
All-Pro teams have been put together for decades, and they haven’t changed to reflect the changes in the NFL. So when All-Pro voters fill out their ballots, they’re asked to name two wide receivers, two running backs, one tight end and one fullback. That’s ridiculous. In the 1940s, you would have seen two running backs and a fullback on the field together. Now, three wide receivers is the norm, and a fullback is a rarity. And yet All-Pro teams still select players like we’re in the 1940s. . .
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Smith then spends a lot of time ripping on the John Kuhn pick . . .or any fullback, I guess. But this is nothing against him personally or Chase Stuart who also opines on this kind of thing, but they really don't have much of a sense of history.
First, he goes back to the "AP is considered "offical" kinard by writing "AP version is generally recognized as the “official” All-Pro team for the NFL" As has been shown there is no offical All-pro team but the Record and Fact Book has included the PFWA since 1970, and in 1970 and 1971 the Record and Fact book called the PFWA team the official one and the AP team was not included either year.
However, Mr. Smith doesn't seem to know, or if he knows does not say, that the fullback position was included only in the 1990s. Prior to that it was always two running backs, so the 1940s remark is a little odd. Also, he suggests that three wide receivers should be chosen. The NeA did that in 1990, I think (going by memory) and it didn't last long. The first All-Pro team to choose a nickle back was the NFL Films All-pro team of 1983, and Dr. Z did it a couple of years later.
Like Mike Florio, Smith dives into topics that he's not very well versed in (Florio has a really odd post about how the PFBHOF should reform it's voting).
Anyway, If a slot receiver and nickleback were added, fine by me . . .if a nickle rusher is added, fine by me, but when you look at all the All-Pro teams usually you get those on some of the teams. Heck, Pro Football Focus (I am not a big fan) broke ground by choosing full special teams, including coverage units and blocking units . ..
I wish we could get Smith and Florio and Chase Stuart and others to post here, or to join, while they may not agree with certain aspects, they would learn a lot. I learn new things almost every time I read this forum . ..
All-Pro team should change to reflect the changing NFL
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 3, 2015, 7:35 AM EST
It’s time for changes on the All-Pro team.
The Associated Press has released its annual All-Pro team, and although other organizations release their own All-Pro teams, the AP version is generally recognized as the “official” All-Pro team for the NFL. Unfortunately, that All-Pro team is flawed.
We’ve already noted the odd fact that the AP will not yet release the names of the 50 voters who put the All-Pro team together, and that some of the votes were highly questionable. But there’s a more fundamental flaw than that.
All-Pro teams have been put together for decades, and they haven’t changed to reflect the changes in the NFL. So when All-Pro voters fill out their ballots, they’re asked to name two wide receivers, two running backs, one tight end and one fullback. That’s ridiculous. In the 1940s, you would have seen two running backs and a fullback on the field together. Now, three wide receivers is the norm, and a fullback is a rarity. And yet All-Pro teams still select players like we’re in the 1940s. . .
FOR THE REST CLICK ON LINK.
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Smith then spends a lot of time ripping on the John Kuhn pick . . .or any fullback, I guess. But this is nothing against him personally or Chase Stuart who also opines on this kind of thing, but they really don't have much of a sense of history.
First, he goes back to the "AP is considered "offical" kinard by writing "AP version is generally recognized as the “official” All-Pro team for the NFL" As has been shown there is no offical All-pro team but the Record and Fact Book has included the PFWA since 1970, and in 1970 and 1971 the Record and Fact book called the PFWA team the official one and the AP team was not included either year.
However, Mr. Smith doesn't seem to know, or if he knows does not say, that the fullback position was included only in the 1990s. Prior to that it was always two running backs, so the 1940s remark is a little odd. Also, he suggests that three wide receivers should be chosen. The NeA did that in 1990, I think (going by memory) and it didn't last long. The first All-Pro team to choose a nickle back was the NFL Films All-pro team of 1983, and Dr. Z did it a couple of years later.
Like Mike Florio, Smith dives into topics that he's not very well versed in (Florio has a really odd post about how the PFBHOF should reform it's voting).
Anyway, If a slot receiver and nickleback were added, fine by me . . .if a nickle rusher is added, fine by me, but when you look at all the All-Pro teams usually you get those on some of the teams. Heck, Pro Football Focus (I am not a big fan) broke ground by choosing full special teams, including coverage units and blocking units . ..
I wish we could get Smith and Florio and Chase Stuart and others to post here, or to join, while they may not agree with certain aspects, they would learn a lot. I learn new things almost every time I read this forum . ..