Professional Football Researchers Association Forum

rhickok1109 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:35 pm

BD Sullivan wrote:

rhickok1109 wrote: Parseghian and Joe Paterno had both turned down the job (which offered to them by Art Sr., not by Dan) before the field was narrowed to five.

Paterno turned it down in 1969 when they hired Noll instead. He had just taken over Penn State in 1966.

Yes, you're right. I'm sorry. But was Parseghian really in the mix in 1966? I'm not disputing it, but I don't know of any evidence for that.

I've never heard Parseghian's name ever mentioned for the Steelers HC job.

L.C. Greenwood wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:13 pm

BD Sullivan wrote:

L.C. Greenwood wrote: Another SB win, and I don't know how you keep him out of Canton, given the overall record.

Mention the name Mike Shanahan?

Shanahan had a great start during his first six years, but just 115-109 over the last 14 seasons. And it those last 14, just one conference title appearance.

Don't really see the 70s Rams comparison, since that group only reached one SB, and had a musical chairs situation at QB. Steelers do have some young, talented defensive players, but the scheme must be more flexible against the Pats. Of course, if Big Ben does retire early, that changes the picture completely.

I had never thought about Shanahan's last 14 seasons, very interesting. Although the HOF didn't hold Tom Flores last five seasons, all non-winning ones against him.

In comparing Shanahan to Tom Flores, both won two Super Bowls.
Shanahan's winning percentage was .552. Flores winning percentage was .527.
Only six of Flores 12 seasons were winning ones. Only 10 of Shanahan's 20 seasons were winning ones. I find it interesting that Flores is in the HOF and not Shanahan.

George Seifert also won two Super Bowls. His winning percentage was .648. Eight of his 11 seasons were winning ones. He did not have a winning season his last three seasons.

As a Steelers fan, I find it downright criminal that Tomlin, a former defensive coach, had Roethlisberger, Bell, Brown, Bryant, in their prime and also had a good offensive line and that offense should have averaged 30 points per game but they lost to Blake Bortles and the Jacksonville Jacquars at home in the 2017 playoffs 45-42.

saturdaysarebetter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2026 11:26 am As a Steelers fan, I find it downright criminal that Tomlin, a former defensive coach, had Roethlisberger, Bell, Brown, Bryant, in their prime and also had a good offensive line and that offense should have averaged 30 points per game but they lost to Blake Bortles and the Jacksonville Jacquars at home in the 2017 playoffs 45-42.

How were the Steelers in 2016 and 17 defensively in your opinion?

42 points is a lot to score, but 45 is also a lot to allow

SeahawkFever wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2026 12:59 pm

saturdaysarebetter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2026 11:26 am As a Steelers fan, I find it downright criminal that Tomlin, a former defensive coach, had Roethlisberger, Bell, Brown, Bryant, in their prime and also had a good offensive line and that offense should have averaged 30 points per game but they lost to Blake Bortles and the Jacksonville Jacquars at home in the 2017 playoffs 45-42.

How were the Steelers in 2016 and 17 defensively in your opinion?

42 points is a lot to score, but 45 is also a lot to allow

I thought better in 2017. In the regular season, they had two games they allowed 30 points or more and held three teams to single digits and 10 teams to 20 points or less. Seventh in points allowed in the league.
In comparison, in 2016, they allowed 30 points or more three times, held two teams to single digits and nine teams to 20 points or less. Tenth in points allowed in the league.