Your Unpopular Football Opinions

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7DnBrnc53 wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 2:35 pm
So in your perceived lack of respect for the Broncos, you feel it’s the right play, on a website full of football historians that are going to call you out for it, to pay lack of respect back because you are butt hurt … almost 30 years later?

Okay.

I think enjoyment and analysis of all sports would be so much better if we’d stop worrying about perceived “lack of respect”. Most of it is asinine and players invent plenty of “lack of respect” as a motivating factor out of absolutely nothing much of the time.
Huh? I don't think about this much. However, it is a fact that the Broncos really got spit on before that game because of the sins of the AFC's past (they were 14-point underdogs right after the Packers beat the 49ers). It wasn't just a perceived lack of respect (not that that doesn't happen from time to time. I agree on that).
Then blame Vegas. Point spreads only tangentially have to do with a judgement of the teams involved.

They have everything to do with trying to ascertain how to split the booting pool in half.
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Then blame Vegas. Point spreads only tangentially have to do with a judgement of the teams involved.

They have everything to do with trying to ascertain how to split the booting pool in half.
It wasn't just Vegas. John Madden was basically indicating after the NFC Title Game that the Pack should be huge favorites.

Also, the ESPN people weren't exactly giving the Broncos any credit. On the Sports Reporters the week before the game, Dick Schaap talked about how Tarkenton was on SNL after their fourth SB loss, joking about how he will get back to the SB next year and lose again. Then, Schaap said that Elway should have that same attitude.

Now, I am not bitter about it, but that doesn't mean that there wasn't disrespect from the media towards that Denver team before SB 32.
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To be honest, many people--including the media--were hoping the Broncos wouldnt make it to the SB. Some thought the Chiefs and Steelers were better teams and the Broncos had been upset by the Jags as heavy favorites in the playoffs the year before. The Packers took care of SF easily in the championship game and had beaten the Broncos 41-6 just the season before. Denver was underestimated, but built a solid team and whipped them. Then went back to back, though I feel the Vikings would have possibly beaten them in early 1999, had they got by Atlanta. With those championships, everyone looked at Shanahan and Elway differently.
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Brian wolf wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:32 am To be honest, many people--including the media--were hoping the Broncos wouldnt make it to the SB. Some thought the Chiefs and Steelers were better teams and the Broncos had been upset by the Jags as heavy favorites in the playoffs the year before. The Packers took care of SF easily in the championship game and had beaten the Broncos 41-6 just the season before. Denver was underestimated, but built a solid team and whipped them. Then went back to back, though I feel the Vikings would have possibly beaten them in early 1999, had they got by Atlanta. With those championships, everyone looked at Shanahan and Elway differently.
Denver backing into the playoffs is a key ingredient to the they being underestimated. And losing to Steelers and San Fran, each by double-digits with the latter being the Romanowski spitting incident, not a good look for a team getting ready for the playoffs and having to beat teams like those two.

Of course we found out otherwise, that they and GB were really on the same caliber (with Denver really better in the very end as the win indicates). But as you point out, Wolf, with the Jags upset still fresh and GB convincingly beating San Fran on the road though, lets face it, they really weren't all that special (I felt that 11-1 start was a mirage even at the time, confirmed with that 44-9 loss at KC). And Green Bay were the 13-3 defending-Champs!

Though this was now a completely different John Elway Denver team, unfairly the 'ghosts' of the '80s were circling all around San Diego the two weeks leading up. And I was, yes, a bit guilty of it at the time. I wasn't picturing Denver at all beating Green Bay. I, admittedly, stuck a knife in them after the San Fran loss. But yet I was still, as I should have been, leery going into that AFC Championship Game (rematch) at Three Rivers.

Yes, end of day, GB wasn't on a higher level than Denver. Their road record was 3-5, low-lighted by that serious 'black-eye' of a loss to the winless Colts which dropped the Pack to a modest 8-3 mark. Yes, the '79 Steelers get blown out at 0-6 Cincy; but to an 0-10 team is worse though it wasn't a blowout. I once seen the '97 Packers as the 'younger twin-brother' of 1996. But upon further inspection, '97 was quite a steeper step down. Yes, they woke up after that loss at Indy. They won the rest of their games until SBXXXII itself, each and every one in double-digits, but they really weren't dominant in that 8-3 start as the '96 version was. Yes, '96 had those back-to-back November defeats at KC & Big D, but bounced right on back to convincing wins.

The '97 Packers are like the '14 Seahawks. Both defending-Champs that didn't start off too great but streaked/dominated into the playoffs until each barely losing the SB.
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The Packers took care of SF easily in the championship game and had beaten the Broncos 41-6 just the season before.
The late-90's 49ers weren't as good as people thought. Their defense used to beat on weak sisters every year in a terrible division. Also, Elway didn't play in that 41-6 game, and TD only played a half. Denver wasn't trying to win that game.

I know you guys don't agree. but the 96 Pack were an overrated team (although slightly better than the 97 version). Denver and Jacksonville would have defeated them, and the Pats could have as well if Parcells' heart was in it (a Pat fan on Reddit said that he may have threw that SB. He had one foot out the door, and would leave for the Jets after the game).
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7DnBrnc53 wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:51 pm
The Packers took care of SF easily in the championship game and had beaten the Broncos 41-6 just the season before.
The late-90's 49ers weren't as good as people thought. Their defense used to beat on weak sisters every year in a terrible division. Also, Elway didn't play in that 41-6 game, and TD only played a half. Denver wasn't trying to win that game.

I know you guys don't agree. but the 96 Pack were an overrated team (although slightly better than the 97 version). Denver and Jacksonville would have defeated them, and the Pats could have as well if Parcells' heart was in it (a Pat fan on Reddit said that he may have threw that SB. He had one foot out the door, and would leave for the Jets after the game).
What about the 96 Packers strikes you as overrated out of curiosity?

As for the 49ers, they had a pretty good year in 1997 I’d say (13-3 record, top five on both sides of the ball by points, and I believe they were second or third by the score% metric which is over the 90th percentile), but they were in a word: Old.

Looking at their roster on Pro Football Reference, I see eleven starters who were 30 or older if you count Gary Anderson (I count kicker and punter but that’s just me); could’ve been 12 if Jerry Rice was healthy. Other than the 1977 Vikings (who were 9-5, and average statistically), I am not aware of another team that started that many players that old and got to a conference championship game or later.

I’ll say this: There are a few years where I think the 49ers schedule being labeled easy is probably overblown (1991, and 1995 most notably), and there are others where that criticism is more deserved.

Credit them for having the season they did, but 1997 is probably one of the easiest schedules the 49ers had in those years, and given how old the roster was at the time, 97 is the year where the criticism is probably the most deserved.
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The Lombardi Trophy presentation should return to the sanctity of the locker room.
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7DnBrnc53 wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:51 pm I know you guys don't agree. but the 96 Pack were an overrated team (although slightly better than the 97 version). Denver and Jacksonville would have defeated them, and the Pats could have as well if Parcells' heart was in it (a Pat fan on Reddit said that he may have threw that SB. He had one foot out the door, and would leave for the Jets after the game).
Well, this is the unpopular opinion thread. So kudos for being in the proper spirit of things. That’s a whopper.
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Ten Minute Ticker wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:05 pm
7DnBrnc53 wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:51 pm I know you guys don't agree. but the 96 Pack were an overrated team (although slightly better than the 97 version). Denver and Jacksonville would have defeated them, and the Pats could have as well if Parcells' heart was in it (a Pat fan on Reddit said that he may have threw that SB. He had one foot out the door, and would leave for the Jets after the game).
Well, this is the unpopular opinion thread. So kudos for being in the proper spirit of things. That’s a whopper.
What do you mean, a whopper? I rode on a bus just a few years ago with a guy who said the same thing, so that confirms it.
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Ten Minute Ticker wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:05 pm Well, this is the unpopular opinion thread. So kudos for being in the proper spirit of things. That’s a whopper.
Fans are a peculiar lot. I can't imagine the joy of my team winning a championship being outweighed by anger that they weren't given enough respect beforehand -- and then stewing in that anger for almost three decades.
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