Pro Football Hall of Fame question

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conace21 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:54 pm
readjack wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:40 am
conace21 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:40 pm
The first classes were designated specifically for players. Lambeau and Halas appeared on the ballot for their playing careers, and apparently a number of people either didn't pay attention, or ignored the instructions, and voted them both in.
Thanks Adam. Where did you get that the first class was supposed to be players only? The original nomination list in Dec. 1962 listed a section of "non-players nominated" with both Halas and Lambeau: Bell, Carr, Cusack, Halas, Hay, Lambeau, Mara, Marshall, Neale, Owens, Ray, Rooney, Storck, Ward.

I don't have the 1963 PFHOF program but the 1964 program introduces Halas this way: "George Halas enters Pro Football's Hall of Fame through many portals: Player, or Coach, or Founder." His bust (https://readjack.wordpress.com/2024/08/ ... l-of-fame/) says "Founder, Owner, Coach."

Lambeau's intro in the 1964 program: "Curly Lambeau like George Halas holds many tickets to The Hall of Fame; Player, or Coach, or Founder."

Obviously the original class included Bell, Carr, Mara and Marshall too. Thoughts?
Hi Jack. I was talking about the 1946 class in Kirk's exercise, not the actual 1963 class. It looks like you quoted my response, but not JameisBrownston's question to which I was responding.

Jameis asked about Parrat and Norb Sacksteder, and why they were not the first pre-NFL players chosen for Kirk's exercise. I didn't have an opinion on that, so I didn't answer it, but that led me to understand that he was talking about Kirk's project, and not the actual HOF inductions.

He then asked/said that he assumed coaches were on the same ballot as players for Kirk's exercise, and that he didn't see Halas, Lambeau, and Chamberlin getting in as players. I agreed with him on the first two, but I felt that Chamberlin's playing career alone was worthy of early induction.
My mistake. Thanks man!
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@Jack, glad you made that mistake though. I had never seen the attachment you posted. Didn't realize Cusack was on that list. I nominated him for HOVG many years ago.
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right on!
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I tried to comment on your wordpress site Jack, but it didnt go through ...

What's your feelings on the Bears getting Johnson? I am sure the running game will get high priority but will he retain his former Lions player, D'Andre Swift?
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Brian wolf wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:46 pm I tried to comment on your wordpress site Jack, but it didnt go through ...

What's your feelings on the Bears getting Johnson? I am sure the running game will get high priority but will he retain his former Lions player, D'Andre Swift?
Weird!

I'm very happy about hiring Johnson because he was the #1 guy and we got him. That's great. That's where my active celebration ends. Win a Super Bowl.
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