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Re: Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:28 am
by Citizen
Bryan wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:01 am [I guess its kind of an "outside the box" logic to judge a Super Bowl team by how their players played in seasons other than the Super Bowl season.
I was referring more to the three-year period from 1995-97 regarding Green Bay, but point taken. And yes, no question that Denver was the better team in SB 32.

Re: Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:49 am
by 7DnBrnc53
Dorsey Levens suffered a broken leg in 1998. Had an impressive comeback to get that 1,000 yards.
OK. Good for him. He did a great job. However, he was never in Ahman Green's class.

Re: Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:21 pm
by Citizen
7DnBrnc53 wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:49 am
Dorsey Levens suffered a broken leg in 1998. Had an impressive comeback to get that 1,000 yards.
OK. Good for him. He did a great job. However, he was never in Ahman Green's class.
And I've never been as handsome as George Clooney.

So?

I'm not sure why you're so determined to dump on a team that your heroes beat in the Super Bowl. The 1996 Packers were really, really good. The more energy you spend disputing that, the sillier you look.

Re: Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:59 am
by 7DnBrnc53
I'm not sure why you're so determined to dump on a team that your heroes beat in the Super Bowl. The 1996 Packers were really, really good. The more energy you spend disputing that, the sillier you look.
First off, nobody in the NFL should be anyone's hero (unless they actually save their life somehow).

Second, maybe I shouldn't have went that far with Levens and Ahman Green, but I get a little fired up when I think about that game. The Broncos got no respect that week. On a documentary that was done recently about the 97 Broncos (local Denver station), DE Alfred Williams said that one of the Packers invited him to their victory party before the game. That's how much the Pack disrespected them. Williams went back, told the team, and he said that the resolve to win increased.

It's not only that. I get upset at how the NFC was perceived at the time (even those teams were overrated). Someone I talk football with said that the NFC champions got worse as the streak went on (even though they were considered to be God's gift to football).

Re: Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:56 am
by Bryan
7DnBrnc53 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:59 am Someone I talk football with said that the NFC champions got worse as the streak went on (even though they were considered to be God's gift to football).
Not sure I am following the logic on that. The 96 Packers, 94 Niners & 91 Skins were among the most statistically dominant teams in history. You even had a 'control group' with the Buffalo Bills, and they went from losing the Super Bowl by 1 point to losing by 13 points to losing by 35 points. I don't see that as evidence of the NFC champion getting worse.

As for the Broncos, they were a great team in 1996. They went 12-1 and then rested their players. They were the AFCs best team but somehow managed to lose to the Jags in the postseason. The Packers played their worst game of 97 in that Super Bowl, and still almost sent the game into OT. I see losing to the Broncos as disappointing, but not incredibly surprising. JMO

Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:21 am
by James
I do NOT think Brady is the greatest of all-time. That would be Otto Graham. Joe Montana & Johnny Unitas are second. I've thought that for a few years now.

Re: Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:45 am
by SeahawkFever
7DnBrnc53 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:59 am
I'm not sure why you're so determined to dump on a team that your heroes beat in the Super Bowl. The 1996 Packers were really, really good. The more energy you spend disputing that, the sillier you look.
First off, nobody in the NFL should be anyone's hero (unless they actually save their life somehow).

Second, maybe I shouldn't have went that far with Levens and Ahman Green, but I get a little fired up when I think about that game. The Broncos got no respect that week. On a documentary that was done recently about the 97 Broncos (local Denver station), DE Alfred Williams said that one of the Packers invited him to their victory party before the game. That's how much the Pack disrespected them. Williams went back, told the team, and he said that the resolve to win increased.

It's not only that. I get upset at how the NFC was perceived at the time (even those teams were overrated). Someone I talk football with said that the NFC champions got worse as the streak went on (even though they were considered to be God's gift to football).
Should the AFC of the 80’s and early to mid 90’s be considered underrated in your opinion?

Re: Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:46 am
by SeahawkFever
James wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:21 am I do NOT think Brady is the greatest of all-time. That would be Otto Graham. Joe Montana & Johnny Unitas are second. I've thought that for a few years now.
Why Graham over Unitas in your opinion?

And any 21st century quarterbacks you’d take over Tom Brady?

Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:55 am
by James
SeahawkFever wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:46 am
James wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:21 am I do NOT think Brady is the greatest of all-time. That would be Otto Graham. Joe Montana & Johnny Unitas are second. I've thought that for a few years now.
Why Graham over Unitas in your opinion?

And any 21st century quarterbacks you’d take over Tom Brady?
To me, Otto Graham is the greatest ever! From 1946-1955 he led the Browns to 10 straight title games and went 7-3. The 1948 Browns went undefeated. I would also take Montana barely over Unitas.

I wouldn't take any 21st century quarterback over Brady.

Re: Your Unpopular Football Opinions

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:58 am
by SeahawkFever
James wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:55 am
SeahawkFever wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:46 am
James wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:21 am I do NOT think Brady is the greatest of all-time. That would be Otto Graham. Joe Montana & Johnny Unitas are second. I've thought that for a few years now.
Why Graham over Unitas in your opinion?

And any 21st century quarterbacks you’d take over Tom Brady?
To me, Otto Graham is the greatest ever! From 1946-1955 he led the Browns to 10 straight title games and went 7-3. The 1948 Browns went undefeated. I would also take Montana barely over Unitas.

I wouldn't take any 21st century quarterback over Brady.
Who would the best quarterback whose prime was primarily in the 70’s be for you? And how about the 90’s?