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JohnTurney wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:39 pm

JameisBrownston wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:47 pm Jeff Fisher is a mind-boggling selection, yeah. Old Mr. 8-8 himself

Voters are seemingly done with Buddy Parker, but for him to be gone -- and Fish there --- that is a head scratcher.

If Parker is done ... then fine, whatever ... but use the slot for more than a mediocre coach, I get that Fish
got to a Super Bowl and had another excellent team ... but come on ...

Which coach would you have selected John I'm curious

There are no coordinators in the HOVG either. Is that an accident, or copying the HOF? If the latter, I think this is our cue to nominate some.

JameisBrownston wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:49 am There are no coordinators in the HOVG either. Is that an accident, or copying the HOF? If the latter, I think this is our cue to nominate some.

Great point! Something we discussed on TOF this summer, with the condition that the coach was never a HC:

https://talkoffametwo.com/judge-and-jur ... shrinement

The choices:

2 votes - Dante Scarnecchia
1 vote - Fritz Heisler, Sherman Lewis, Jim Johnson, Floyd Peters
1 vote - "no one"

Honorable mention: Johnson x2, Lewis, Scarnecchia, Monte Kiffin, Tom Moore, Jimmy Raye, Fritz Shurmur, Dave Toub, Ernie Zampese

Buster Ramsey has a chance as a player, then coach. I nominated Arnsparger but he had been a HC as well. Didnt make the finalist list.

Brian wolf wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:12 pm Buster Ramsey has a chance as a player, then coach. I nominated Arnsparger but he had been a HC as well. Didnt make the finalist list.

Just curious BW where does he have a better case player or coach

Ramsey was probably known more for coaching than playing, Robert but his total career deserves the HOVG, I feel.

Brian wolf wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:40 pm Ramsey was probably known more for coaching than playing, Robert but his total career deserves the HOVG, I feel.

ill agree with you on the hovg part 100% deserves it all the time i just have this feeling that they will not induct another coach until belichick you think im crazy brian

rewing84 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 2:43 pm

Brian wolf wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:12 pm Buster Ramsey has a chance as a player, then coach. I nominated Arnsparger but he had been a HC as well. Didnt make the finalist list.

Just curious BW where does he have a better case player or coach

Buster was a HC too, and it did not go well.

JeffreyMiller wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:09 pm

rewing84 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 2:43 pm

Brian wolf wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:12 pm Buster Ramsey has a chance as a player, then coach. I nominated Arnsparger but he had been a HC as well. Didnt make the finalist list.

Just curious BW where does he have a better case player or coach

Buster was a HC too, and it did not go well.

11-16-1 if I recall

We will see Robert. Holmgren could be the next coach elected, but I feel it will be Kraft and two seniors players, possibly Sharpe and another offensive player like Craig, Kuechenberg, or Ken Anderson.