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Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:51 am
by BD Sullivan
lastcat3 wrote:If you want to watch a historically accurate football movie 'We are Marshall' would probably be the one you would want to go for. 'Friday Night Lights' is fairly accurate also.
In the 2008 movie about Ernie Davis, The Express, Paul Brown doesn't even exist and the game in which he was introduced in Cleveland was supposedly televised nationally--which it wasn't.

Monday Night Mayhem is another movie with countless inaccuracies.

Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:16 am
by JeffreyMiller
bachslunch wrote:
BD Sullivan wrote:North Dallas Forty was considered fictional, even though the depictions of key players and coaches mirror the Cowboys to a T. It was pretty good, while Semi-Tough was horrible.

When it comes to The Longest Yard, I want to vomit anytime someone brings up the remake. At least Burt Reynolds looked the part. Adam Sandler? Please. :roll:
Reynolds looked the part for a good reason — he at one time was a promising RB for Florida State. He opted for an acting career after injuring his knees and spleen in accidents both on and off the field.
Which was my point about James Caan. He looked silly doing some of his jukes in Brian's Song ...

Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:18 am
by JeffreyMiller
One that I enjoyed because of the action scenes but hated because of the bad edited and acting was Number 1 with Charlton Heston. When the action scenes cut from him to Kilmer, it's laughable!

Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:08 pm
by BD Sullivan
JeffreyMiller wrote:One that I enjoyed because of the action scenes but hated because of the bad edited and acting was Number 1 with Charlton Heston. When the action scenes cut from him to Kilmer, it's laughable!
Heston said he worked twice as long to try and resemble an NFL quarterback as he did to learn how to ride a chariot in Ben-Hur. All that extra work went for naught. :lol:

Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:28 pm
by lastcat3
BD Sullivan wrote:
lastcat3 wrote:If you want to watch a historically accurate football movie 'We are Marshall' would probably be the one you would want to go for. 'Friday Night Lights' is fairly accurate also.
In the 2008 movie about Ernie Davis, The Express, Paul Brown doesn't even exist and the game in which he was introduced in Cleveland was supposedly televised nationally--which it wasn't.

Monday Night Mayhem is another movie with countless inaccuracies.

Yeah very few sports movies would be very interesting at all if they tried to be very historically accurate. Reason they were able to be (for the most part) historically accurate with movies like 'We Are Marshall' and 'Friday Night Lights' was because the films focus more on real life issues than they do the actual season. 'We Are Marshall' deals more with the plane crash and how the surviving members of the team and the community dealt with it. And Friday Night Lights focuses more on how crazy Texas is about highschool football.

Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:08 pm
by BD Sullivan
lastcat3 wrote:Yeah very few sports movies would be very interesting at all if they tried to be very historically accurate. Reason they were able to be (for the most part) historically accurate with movies like 'We Are Marshall' and 'Friday Night Lights' was because the films focus more on real life issues than they do the actual season. 'We Are Marshall' deals more with the plane crash and how the surviving members of the team and the community dealt with it. And Friday Night Lights focuses more on how crazy Texas is about highschool football.
In the Will Smith movie, Concussion, there's a scene in which allegedly Andre Waters is confronted by an angry Dave Duerson, the latter doubting that a problem exists. That may or may not have taken place, but it fits neatly with the plot since both ended up committing suicide due to the effects.

What's weird about Two Minute Warning is that before NBC showed it on TV, 40 minutes of new footage were filmed and the plot involving the sniper was changed to him simply being a decoy for an art theft. Supposedly, the network though the original version was too violent, with the plot itself unnerving. Didn't help, since both versions stunk.

Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:26 pm
by 74_75_78_79_
Considering that she wasn’t a football fan and that it was her directorial debut, Amy Heckerling didn’t do a bad job at all with the football game montage for ‘Fast Times at Ridgemont High’ (Forest Whitaker’s character, Jefferson, totally going off on Lincoln High in Ridgemont’s 42-0 romp over them). None of the game-action scenes were filmed in conjunction with spectators in the stands/cheerleaders/band being seen in the background. Each was filmed separately. The actual ‘plays’ being shown (all defense, make that Jefferson pulverizing the terrified opposition) were silly and exaggerated yet just enough shots intertwined throughout the montage were enough to make its point in capturing the spirit of ‘Friday Night Lights’. This, of course, with the assistance of Billy Squire’s “Fast Times (Best Years of Our Lives)” rockin’ in the background.

Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:34 pm
by ChrisBabcock
In the Will Smith movie, Concussion, there's a scene in which allegedly Andre Waters is confronted by an angry Dave Duerson, the latter doubting that a problem exists. That may or may not have taken place, but it fits neatly with the plot since both ended up committing suicide due to the effects.
I just watched Concussion. Decent movie, not great. But probably one that needed to be made. Will Smith's acting was excellent.

Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:23 am
by Rupert Patrick
ChrisBabcock wrote:
In the Will Smith movie, Concussion, there's a scene in which allegedly Andre Waters is confronted by an angry Dave Duerson, the latter doubting that a problem exists. That may or may not have taken place, but it fits neatly with the plot since both ended up committing suicide due to the effects.
I just watched Concussion. Decent movie, not great. But probably one that needed to be made. Will Smith's acting was excellent.
Until I saw that, I had no idea that Mike Webster lived in an SUV for the last few months of his life, and was shocking himself with a stun gun in order to give himself temporary pain relief. The movie made it appear like he might have shocked himself one time too many and his heart gave out, but I guess the authorities determined that from finding the stun gun in his hand when he died, and finding the burn marks all over his body.

Re: Depictions of Football in American Cinema

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:18 am
by BD Sullivan
Rupert Patrick wrote:
ChrisBabcock wrote:
In the Will Smith movie, Concussion, there's a scene in which allegedly Andre Waters is confronted by an angry Dave Duerson, the latter doubting that a problem exists. That may or may not have taken place, but it fits neatly with the plot since both ended up committing suicide due to the effects.
I just watched Concussion. Decent movie, not great. But probably one that needed to be made. Will Smith's acting was excellent.
Until I saw that, I had no idea that Mike Webster lived in an SUV for the last few months of his life, and was shocking himself with a stun gun in order to give himself temporary pain relief. The movie made it appear like he might have shocked himself one time too many and his heart gave out, but I guess the authorities determined that from finding the stun gun in his hand when he died, and finding the burn marks all over his body.
With Webster, it was clear that something was wrong with him when he was inducted into the HOF. While every other inductee showed up in a standard suit, he showed up dressed like he was going out to pick up groceries. :(