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Re: Another "changed the NFL" claim

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:55 pm
by Rupert Patrick
JuggernautJ wrote:
Terry Baldshaw wrote:Wasn't there a rule change in the latter 70s nicknamed the Mel Blount rule? If so, Blount would have to qualify.
So Jim Trimble changed the game??

http://www.profootballresearchers.org/a ... 02-790.pdf
Didn't the NFL also pass a rule against standing right in front of the goal posts, and trying to leap and knock a low field goal attempt from going over the crossbar? I remember somebody used to do that and was successful a time or two before the NFL created a rule to prevent people from doing that?

I was also thinking the rule to prevent players from using other players as leverage (such as leaping on a teammate's back to try to block a kick) was put in as a response to some player doing it in a game.

Re: Another "changed the NFL" claim

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:31 am
by SixtiesFan
Rupert Patrick wrote:
JuggernautJ wrote:
Terry Baldshaw wrote:Wasn't there a rule change in the latter 70s nicknamed the Mel Blount rule? If so, Blount would have to qualify.
So Jim Trimble changed the game??

http://www.profootballresearchers.org/a ... 02-790.pdf
Didn't the NFL also pass a rule against standing right in front of the goal posts, and trying to leap and knock a low field goal attempt from going over the crossbar? I remember somebody used to do that and was successful a time or two before the NFL created a rule to prevent people from doing that?

I was also thinking the rule to prevent players from using other players as leverage (such as leaping on a teammate's back to try to block a kick) was put in as a response to some player doing it in a game.
Morris Stroud.

Re: Another "changed the NFL" claim

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:59 am
by Rupert Patrick
SixtiesFan wrote:
Rupert Patrick wrote:
Didn't the NFL also pass a rule against standing right in front of the goal posts, and trying to leap and knock a low field goal attempt from going over the crossbar? I remember somebody used to do that and was successful a time or two before the NFL created a rule to prevent people from doing that?

Morris Stroud.
Was Stroud ever successful? I remember in the Roger Treat Football Encyclopedia, there was a photo of somebody successfully leaping at the goal posts and knocking down a low field goal attempt, and I can't remember who it was, and I don't think it was Stroud. I was thinking he was with Washington or Baltimore in the early 1960's. It might have been RC Owens.

Re: Another "changed the NFL" claim

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:29 am
by SixtiesFan
Rupert Patrick wrote:
SixtiesFan wrote:
Rupert Patrick wrote:
Didn't the NFL also pass a rule against standing right in front of the goal posts, and trying to leap and knock a low field goal attempt from going over the crossbar? I remember somebody used to do that and was successful a time or two before the NFL created a rule to prevent people from doing that?

Morris Stroud.
Was Stroud ever successful? I remember in the Roger Treat Football Encyclopedia, there was a photo of somebody successfully leaping at the goal posts and knocking down a low field goal attempt, and I can't remember who it was, and I don't think it was Stroud. I was thinking he was with Washington or Baltimore in the early 1960's. It might have been RC Owens.
Yes, it was Owens. Now that you mention it, I remember seeing the photo in Sport Magazine. Owens was with the Colts at the time.

Stroud tried to block George Blanda's game-tying FG in a 1970 game but missed.

Re: Another "changed the NFL" claim

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:29 am
by Rupert Patrick
SixtiesFan wrote:
Rupert Patrick wrote:
Was Stroud ever successful? I remember in the Roger Treat Football Encyclopedia, there was a photo of somebody successfully leaping at the goal posts and knocking down a low field goal attempt, and I can't remember who it was, and I don't think it was Stroud. I was thinking he was with Washington or Baltimore in the early 1960's. It might have been RC Owens.
Yes, it was Owens. Now that you mention it, I remember seeing the photo in Sport Magazine. Owens was with the Colts at the time.

Stroud tried to block George Blanda's game-tying FG in a 1970 game but missed.
http://profootballdaly.com/r-c-owens-un ... oal-block/

Re: Another "changed the NFL" claim

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:44 pm
by NWebster
Rupert Patrick wrote:
SixtiesFan wrote:
Rupert Patrick wrote:
Was Stroud ever successful? I remember in the Roger Treat Football Encyclopedia, there was a photo of somebody successfully leaping at the goal posts and knocking down a low field goal attempt, and I can't remember who it was, and I don't think it was Stroud. I was thinking he was with Washington or Baltimore in the early 1960's. It might have been RC Owens.
Yes, it was Owens. Now that you mention it, I remember seeing the photo in Sport Magazine. Owens was with the Colts at the time.

Stroud tried to block George Blanda's game-tying FG in a 1970 game but missed.
http://profootballdaly.com/r-c-owens-un ... oal-block/
Big Daddy also tried it in the 50's, when still with the Rams, unsuccessfully. Will try to dig up the reference.

Re: Another "changed the NFL" claim

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:55 pm
by rhickok1109
Rupert Patrick wrote:
SixtiesFan wrote:
Rupert Patrick wrote:
Didn't the NFL also pass a rule against standing right in front of the goal posts, and trying to leap and knock a low field goal attempt from going over the crossbar? I remember somebody used to do that and was successful a time or two before the NFL created a rule to prevent people from doing that?

Morris Stroud.
Was Stroud ever successful? I remember in the Roger Treat Football Encyclopedia, there was a photo of somebody successfully leaping at the goal posts and knocking down a low field goal attempt, and I can't remember who it was, and I don't think it was Stroud. I was thinking he was with Washington or Baltimore in the early 1960's. It might have been RC Owens.
The Packers used to put Willie Wood under the crossbar on long FG attempts. Even though he was only 5-10, his great leaping ability allowed him to get a hand well above the crossbar. I've read that he blocked a couple during practices, but never during a real game.

Re: Another "changed the NFL" claim

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:27 am
by Bryan
NWebster wrote:Big Daddy also tried it in the 50's, when still with the Rams, unsuccessfully. Will try to dig up the reference.
Big Daddy didn't really stand under the goalposts, but he did put Don Burroughs on his shoulder pads to form a human tower in an attempt to block a George Blanda FG (unsuccessfully).

Re: Another "changed the NFL" claim

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:54 pm
by Rupert Patrick
Bryan wrote:
NWebster wrote:Big Daddy also tried it in the 50's, when still with the Rams, unsuccessfully. Will try to dig up the reference.
Big Daddy didn't really stand under the goalposts, but he did put Don Burroughs on his shoulder pads to form a human tower in an attempt to block a George Blanda FG (unsuccessfully).
A rule was passed against one player using another player as leverage to block a kick or pass, but I don't know if it was in response to that incident. If Halas was Blanda's coach at the time, it probably was.