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he is interesting candidate, but his big knock was him saying he intentionally missed block(s) to get his QB hurt. 15 years later he said he regretted itKen Crippen wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:41 pm I had Lomas Brown on my podcast to talk about the push from the Lions. He was obviously flattered.
Hard to say if he intentionally missed blocks, but you watch film of him (and I know that you probably have), you can see him essentially get eaten alive at times. O-linemen make mistakes, but there are times when he looks waaaaay overmatched and gets beaten very quickly.JohnTurney wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:19 amhe is interesting candidate, but his big knock was him saying he intentionally missed block(s) to get his QB hurt. 15 years later he said he regretted itKen Crippen wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:41 pm I had Lomas Brown on my podcast to talk about the push from the Lions. He was obviously flattered.
He was head of scouting, but did not do the scouting himself. He looked through the reports that the scouts sent back and made his recommendations. He would occasionally go to a local game like the University of Wisconsin, but he was not the main scout at the game. When Lombardi came in, Lombardi made him the business manager. Essentially, he was their traveling secretary. He would make the travel arrangements and work the logistics to get the team to and from away games. He was also not the driving force behind Lombardi coming to Green Bay. That came from Dave Maraniss' book, and Maraniss admitted afterwards that he got it wrong.Brian wolf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:44 pm I know this is a different thread but Ken, what is the real story with Jack Vainisi ... on your site you mentioned misinformation concerning him? Was he a true GM with GB or Head Scout or Personel or everything? Was he more a financial officer/liason to official ownership?
The head coach ran the show when it came to drafts. Vainisi made some picks in the later rounds of the 1959 draft (McLean was gone and Lombardi was not on board yet), but it was Ronzani, Blackburn, and McLean that made the majority of the picks during Vainisi's tenure.Brian wolf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 11:24 am Thank you. Might have been alot more hands involved in Packer's decisions, than just his. Cliff Christl felt former HC Lisle Blackbourn deserved as much credit for those great player drafts as Vainisi. Christl had some strong opinions about former receiver, Billy Howton as well. I can understand Howton being more of a diva receiver but he was there to catch passes, not lead sweeps as a blocker. I can understand why Lombardi used him as an example, though.
I watched him a lot and never saw a Hall of Famer, I'm not in the Willie Anderson camp but he was in easily a tier higher than Lomas to my mind. His AP1 in 1995 was undeserved, he was probably the 5-7 best OT that year in my mind.Ken Crippen wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:42 amHard to say if he intentionally missed blocks, but you watch film of him (and I know that you probably have), you can see him essentially get eaten alive at times. O-linemen make mistakes, but there are times when he looks waaaaay overmatched and gets beaten very quickly.JohnTurney wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:19 amhe is interesting candidate, but his big knock was him saying he intentionally missed block(s) to get his QB hurt. 15 years later he said he regretted itKen Crippen wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:41 pm I had Lomas Brown on my podcast to talk about the push from the Lions. He was obviously flattered.
Could Lomas Brown be Hall of Very Good?NWebster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:27 pmI watched him a lot and never saw a Hall of Famer, I'm not in the Willie Anderson camp but he was in easily a tier higher than Lomas to my mind. His AP1 in 1995 was undeserved, he was probably the 5-7 best OT that year in my mind.Ken Crippen wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:42 amHard to say if he intentionally missed blocks, but you watch film of him (and I know that you probably have), you can see him essentially get eaten alive at times. O-linemen make mistakes, but there are times when he looks waaaaay overmatched and gets beaten very quickly.JohnTurney wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:19 am
he is interesting candidate, but his big knock was him saying he intentionally missed block(s) to get his QB hurt. 15 years later he said he regretted it