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Brian wolf wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:35 am Brett Favre's record for consecutive started games, will never be broken. I dont count kickers, only players that played the 22 positions from scrimmage. I dont believe there will ever be another player that will even get to 200 consecutive games. If anyone right now is even remotely close, please let me know ... non-kickers of course.

Could a defensive player pass Jim Marshall’s consecutive game streak for a defensive player?

SeahawkFever wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:14 pm The most unbreakable records I am aware of (not all well acknowledged):

Are any of these 18 breakable.

1979 Rams defense allowed -7 yards of offense -- in a dome ... facing a good offense.

JohnTurney wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:51 am

SeahawkFever wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:14 pm The most unbreakable records I am aware of (not all well acknowledged):

Are any of these 18 breakable.

1979 Rams defense allowed -7 yards of offense -- in a dome ... facing a good offense.

Wow...
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... 040sea.htm

That's just... embarrassing.

JohnTurney wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:51 am

SeahawkFever wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:14 pm The most unbreakable records I am aware of (not all well acknowledged):

Are any of these 18 breakable.

1979 Rams defense allowed -7 yards of offense -- in a dome ... facing a good offense.

The 79 Rams no doubt faced a good offense in that game. When I unveiled the offense score percentages, the Seahawks came up as the best offense of 1979. The Rams themselves show up as the sixth best defense.

It'll definitely be tough for a defense to allow fewer than -7 yards in a single game.

14. Ahman Green in 2003 rushed for 1,883 yards and didn’t lead the league in rushing yards.

Derrick Henry will break this next week.

JameisBrownston wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:19 am

14. Ahman Green in 2003 rushed for 1,883 yards and didn’t lead the league in rushing yards.

Derrick Henry will break this next week.

Good point. The second highest rusher league-wide probably is more breakable than it sounded to me initially.

That said, it does feel like teams are more likely to have running backs by committee than they did in the early 2000's when Green was in his prime, so perhaps fewer running backs are in a scheme that could enable them to have a chance of getting higher raw rushing yardage.

Wont matter as much with Henry, because Green still did it in 16 games but imagine Henry having 1900+ yrds and 17 TDs while being 2nd team All-Pro?

Brian wolf wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:28 am Wont matter as much with Henry, because Green still did it in 16 games but imagine Henry having 1900+ yrds and 17 TDs while being 2nd team All-Pro?

Ooh, that reminds me: In 1943, Sammy Baugh led the NFL in passing, punting and interceptions but was not named MVP.

JohnTurney wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:55 pm good time to talk about the stats being "per schedule game" or "per fame" -- prefer the former

17-game seasons, 16 game seasons ... 14, 12, 10

only way to smooth it is to go away for "season" but would make things a little fairer

then the argument is the eras and and that kind of thing, rather than correcting for
games played AND the "qualitative" part (era, how games are being played, etc)

But, OJ being #1 would also be an issue

In this, here, 17-game era - as I'm sure most of you will agree - 2,433 is what's needed to break the season rushing record with me!

Now once we, inevitably, go to 18 games...2,576 would be needed!!

But then it may lead to asking if a RB should be expected to maintain that 143+ per-game average over the course of an 18-game season as opposed to 14 games? Perhaps not a good analogy but maybe sort-of like expecting a baseball team to win about 75% of their games because of all the NFL teams that finished 12-4.

Thanks Jameis ... that year Green had in 2003, he also had 20 total TDs but didnt make All-Pro ... Lewis and Priest Holmes did.
Holmes had 2100 scrimmage yards and 27 TDs!