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His ankle looked bad earlier ... But Mahones didnt look injured at all on the dagger jaunt down the field to win the game. Bradshaw and Young are grinning ear to ear ...

Brian wolf wrote:His ankle looked bad earlier ...

He gutted it out pretty well but I'm simply mystified as to what happened after halftime. K.C. had ONE good drive in the first half and that was it. So how they were able to come together and make a staunch Philly "D" look pedestrian in the 2nd half I really have no idea. Again - I'm glad the Chiefs won but I'm really not sure how.

Like JWL mentioned ... a big opening drive to start the second half. The Eagles couldnt push the lead and didnt run Sanders enough ...

Pedestrian defense in the second half is right. I don't know how many games have ever been won when a team maxes out on scoring in the second half. Chiefs only took a FG because they didn't want a TD.

Zero sacks for a 70 sack team. The second half, some of the gains by KC were short, but they were doing what they wanted to do the entire half. Last two TDs uncontested. Only play that was contested much was the one time they had a 5 on 5 rush and put pressure on Mahomes and he completed the pass anyway. Otherwise it was like generic opponent defense.

Eagles wasting a time out on the delay of game hurt. But if you're going to punt on a 4th and 2, in that game, in the 4th quarter, how can you possibly run a play where you are doing a throwaway pass. You absolutely have to do a running play there. You're already sneaking on every 1 yard play anyway, how can you do that. That was awful in such a close game of this nature, I'd like to know where the breakdown occurred.

Great game for Bolton for KC ... He not only scored to stop an Eagle drive but had a big stop on a third down attempt that forced Philly to kick a FG, rather than driving for a TD. His tackles came at the right time and nearly scored a second defensive TD on a great open field tackle by his cornerback that was ruled incomplete, despite offensive possession. Very close ...

I didn't make a SB prediction here before game-time. But I would have picked the Birds by more than a TD. Already having predicted that the SB would be Cin/SF a few weeks back - and then thinking that if Philly wins the NFCC anyway, that they wouldn't beat Bengals but be able to beat Chiefs - apparently I didn't have a Jimmy the Greek-esque clue at ALL!

If only because the PFHOF has apparently been what it's been as of late ("watered" down), I'd have to say that Patrick Mahomes as well as Andy Reid have now 'clinched' Canton with this very SBLVII victory! After getting bludgeoned by Tampa Bay two Februarys ago, it may have appeared that Mahomes was now going to begin his walk down Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers Street (whist taking Andy down that very road with him). But now with TWO Rings instead of just one...both now have to be permanently, historically, further elevated in Canton's eyes!

As much as I would seriously rather have Cowher as HC of my team instead of Andy (and, no, not because I'm a Steeler-fan), Reid has that second Lombardi now along with all those deep playoff runs (even if, yes, he has had quite the longer career, now, to accomplish all that than Bill has). And Patrick with the two Rings, two SB MVPs, two league MVPs...playing hurt through a SB...and just like I would never accuse Bradshaw of 'faking' being hurt to 'dramatize' things or "fire-up" his troops (I mean just see that hit he took in SBX), it also didn't seem like Patrick was 'faking' things either with me! When Favre lost Sterling, he simply and quickly learned to become an even-better QB. Well same, obviously, now with Mahomes upon losing Tyreek! He's definitely now in Canton! If I must pick only one to get inducted first, I'd take #15 himself over his own HC!

Hurts played such a great game as well! Not only a mega-talent, but even more-so a leader with "never satisfied" work-ethic; only wants to keep getting better and better! The complete package! He and Sirianni, I strongly feel, will win themselves a Lombardi - and as early as next season! And I LOVE and RESPECT Sirianni's attitude toward that call end-of-game! He said it true in that (paraphrasing) there are many plays throughout the game that contribute to the end result. So damn anti-SBXL-Holmgren-esque! But sadly, these 2022 Eagles are yet another example of sacks not being "everything" thus another season sacks-leader still not finishing on top. But not too many of these made it to the SB either (e.g. '83 Cardinals, '84 Bears, '89 Vikings, '94 Steelers, etc), so still an accomplishment for them! Perhaps they'll "tone"-down those sacks as the '84 Bears did, let someone else get that title next year (maybe G-men with 68), and 'shuffle' themselves to a Lombardi instead??

Arians in '86 with Temple at the Vet, Noll in '91 at the Vet, Carroll-vs-Cowher in the '97 divisional round, and Tomlin at the Linc this past autumn made it FIVE Lombardi-winning HCs (past or future) that I can say that I've seen HC in a game in-person! And had Nick won it tonight, it'd be SIX. And, also, had Philly won it - it'd be the first time I would have seen an NFL champ play during their very championship campaign! I did see at least one Yankees game in '96, '98, '99, and 2000 though!

Reid as coach is at Tom Landry level now, so unless you think Landry doesn't belong, Reid doesn't need a "watered down" HOF.

Jay Z wrote:Reid as coach is at Tom Landry level now, so unless you think Landry doesn't belong, Reid doesn't need a "watered down" HOF.

Can't picture Reid sporting a fedora on the sidelines. But otherwise, yes, 4 SB appearances and 2 SB wins puts him at Landry level.

RichardBak wrote:

Jay Z wrote:Reid as coach is at Tom Landry level now, so unless you think Landry doesn't belong, Reid doesn't need a "watered down" HOF.

Can't picture Reid sporting a fedora on the sidelines. But otherwise, yes, 4 SB appearances and 2 SB wins puts him at Landry level.

He probably doesn't need a current-state HOF to get in. Yes, four SBs with two of them wins. But after looking at it some more, man, has Patrick helped him! Reid instantly turned a 2-14 team into a playoff team his first year in KC, but things were looking to be much less significant than his time in Philly (1-4 post-season) until Mahomes came along, thus an AFCCG berth every year since, along with three of those four SBs (both of those Lombardis) with #15 at QB. If I do place Andy on the same 'shelf'/tier with Landry and his "equal", Shula, then Reid would either be standing at or near either edge of that shelf as Landry/Shula would be shoulder-to-shoulder smack in the middle of that shelf. All JMHO.

What's ridiculous though, is hearing talking-heads on NFL Network this morning asking if Mahomes is a top-3 all-time QB as well as if Reid is now a "Rushmore" HC? Geesh!!

Landry/Reid -- that's kind of interesting to contemplate, but Landry basically came up with the 4-3, the Flex, was early in stretching the field vertically with Hayes. Reid is really good in his era, likely the best right now. Mahomes has helped yes, but so has Bienemy. And although Mahomes has helped him considerably in KC, he went to 5 straight NFC Championships with Donovan McNabb -- an above average talent, nothing like (probably) best-of-generation talent like Mahomes.

Reid might be more like Vermeil, maybe? Reid's had more success, but off the top of my head, that's a fair comparison - and not just because they're both Philly/KC. Maybe Tom Coughlin?