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JohnTurney wrote:This is how I rank the "super seniors---Pre WWII guys"
These are, IMO, the essential 5


Al Wistert-- an homage to Bob Carroll
Ox Emerson--numbers impressive for good team...
LaVern Dilweg
Verne Lewellen
Duke Slater



Cecil Isbel---I don't think it'd be fair for a 3rd Packer

Excellent rankings john my rankings would be

Al Wistert

Duke Slater

Verne Lewellen

Lavern Dilweg

Ox Emerson

rewing84 wrote:
Excellent rankings john my rankings would be

Al Wistert

Duke Slater

Verne Lewellen

Lavern Dilweg

Ox Emerson

Fair enough.

How I rank the "modern seniors"

Randy Gradishar
Alex Karras

Donnie Shell
Drew Pearson
Cliff Branch

Roger Craig
Cliff Harris

Jim Covert
Winston Hill
Tommy Nobis
Harold Carmichael

It would be funny/ironic if Roger Craig made it into the Hall of Fame the same year he was voted into the Hall of (the) Very Good.

I am assuming that never happened before... ?

JohnTurney wrote:This is how I rank the "super seniors---Pre WWII guys"
These are, IMO, the essential 5


Al Wistert-- an homage to Bob Carroll
Ox Emerson--numbers impressive for good team...
LaVern Dilweg
Verne Lewellen
Duke Slater



Cecil Isbel---I don't think it'd be fair for a 3rd Packer

I had Dilweg, Emerson, and Youngstrom on my all-time two-way team, so hoping those two get in. Rooting for Lewellen and Slater, but at the same time, there isn't a shortage of backs or tackles from the era.

I wasn't expecting Isbel - couldn't help but think being a Packer may have something to do with it - playing for a defunct team I don't think helps at all, nor pre-NFL.

JuggernautJ wrote:It would be funny/ironic if Roger Craig made it into the Hall of Fame the same year he was voted into the Hall of (the) Very Good.

I am assuming that never happened before... ?

I thought the same - I have no issue with the choice overall - but for the 100 year class, I would have just done super seniors - maybe 10 with 5 getting in. Because if this winds up like the 100 year team with 10% or less super seniors, we'll just get one - hopefully not, but who knows.

Finally, some love for Winston Hill! Thank you Ron Wolf.

JohnTurney wrote:How I rank the "modern seniors"

Randy Gradishar
Alex Karras

Donnie Shell
Drew Pearson
Cliff Branch

Roger Craig
Cliff Harris

Jim Covert
Winston Hill
Tommy Nobis
Harold Carmichael

Excellent Rankings John

rewing84 wrote:

JohnTurney wrote:This is how I rank the "super seniors---Pre WWII guys"
These are, IMO, the essential 5

Al Wistert-- an homage to Bob Carroll
Ox Emerson--numbers impressive for good team...
LaVern Dilweg
Verne Lewellen
Duke Slater

Excellent rankings john my rankings would be

Al Wistert
Duke Slater
Verne Lewellen
Lavern Dilweg
Ox Emerson

I'd go with: 1. Wistert 2. Dilweg 3. Slater 4. Lewellen 5. Emerson (off the top of my head, I'd call this fifth spot a tossup between Emerson and his teammate George Christensen, but nobody seems to be pushing Christensen)

Mainly, I'd like to see at least four of these guys go in.

JohnTurney wrote:How I rank the "modern seniors"

Randy Gradishar
Alex Karras

Donnie Shell
Drew Pearson
Cliff Branch

That's a good list. I might move Pearson and Branch above Karras and Shell, but I'd keep Gradishar where you have him.

Bob Gill wrote:

JohnTurney wrote:How I rank the "modern seniors"

Randy Gradishar
Alex Karras

Donnie Shell
Drew Pearson
Cliff Branch

That's a good list. I might move Pearson and Branch above Karras and Shell, but I'd keep Gradishar where you have him.

Curious ques Bob who would you have higher Drew Pearson or Cliff Branch