Decline of the 'Iron Man' Era

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Decline of the 'Iron Man' Era

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Can someone provide a somewhat detailed 'timeline' of sorts on how the age of the 60-minute-man went away? Did it happen overnight or was it gradual? Correct me if wrong but I assume that when Bednarik was a not 2 but THREE-way (special teams) starter in '60, it was the first time in years that anyone started more than one-way; then after that, it was back to the now-'new' norm as would be to this very day. How and why did it all go away? How did this apply to the AAFC or, later on, the AFL if it applied at all? And how about the salaries? Did those who could start both (or 3) ways get significantly paid more than those who just started ONE-way?

Can you imagine a league today where a JJ Watt and Suh could each also start at OL and could see them take on each other an entire game?? Or a Terrel Suggs playing RB also while Adrian Peterson also plays LB?
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If you read Coach Troup's book on the fifties, you will encounter several instances of star players like Ollie Matson either going both ways or switching from offense to defense from season to season or even within a season.

As to Concrete Charlie,there is some exaggeration to the two-way play in 1960. He switched from center to lb when Bob Pellagrini got hurt in week five. In weeks eight and nine against key rival the Giants, he played both ways. Pellagrini came back the next week and Chuck went back to center. He of course played both ways in the title game against Green Bay as well.

Regarding three-way...well I believe the roster size was only 33 then so lots of starters played on the kicking teams in that time.
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The NCAA adopted a rule in 1941 for the 1942 season allowing unlimited substitution, due to manpower shortages due to the war. The NFL probably followed suit, though I find no mention.

In 1946, free substitution was withdrawn. Substitutions were limited to no more than three men at a time. The substitution rules had been relaxing during the 1930s, but were stricter than this. At first a player substituted for had to wait out the period to re-enter.

In 1949, free substitution was adopted for one year.
In 1950, unlimited free substitution was restored

In the early 1940s, Army started using platoons and were scorned for it.

There had been various rules restricting substitutions. Usually this prevented such as kicking specialists. I do not fidn detailed rules changes. One must possibly research year by year...
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The NCAA adopted a rule in 1941 for the 1942 season allowing unlimited substitution, due to manpower shortages due to the war. The NFL probably followed suit, though I find no mention.

In 1946, free substitution was withdrawn. Substitutions were limited to no more than three men at a time. The substitution rules had been relaxing during the 1930s, but were stricter than this. At first a player substituted for had to wait out the period to re-enter.

In 1949, free substitution was adopted for one year.
In 1950, unlimited free substitution was restored

In the early 1940s, Army started using platoons and were scorned for it.

There had been various rules restricting substitutions. Usually this prevented such as kicking specialists. I do not find detailed rules changes. One must possibly research year by year...
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The NCAA adopted a rule in 1941 for the 1942 season allowing unlimited substitution, due to manpower shortages due to the war. The NFL probably followed suit, though I find no mention.

In 1946, free substitution was withdrawn. Substitutions were limited to no more than three men at a time. The substitution rules had been relaxing during the 1930s, but were stricter than this. At first a player substituted for had to wait out the period to re-enter.

In 1949, free substitution was adopted for one year.
In 1950, unlimited free substitution was restored

In the early 1940s, Army started using platoons and were scorned for it.

There had been various rules restricting substitutions. Usually this prevented such as kicking specialists. I do not find detailed rules changes. One must possibly research year by year...
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The NCAA adopted a rule in 1941 for the 1942 season allowing unlimited substitution, due to manpower shortages due to the war. The NFL probably followed suit, though I find no mention.

In 1946, free substitution was withdrawn. Substitutions were limited to no more than three men at a time. The substitution rules had been relaxing during the 1930s, but were stricter than this. At first a player substituted for had to wait out the period to re-enter.

In 1949, free substitution was adopted for one year.
In 1950, unlimited free substitution was restored

In the early 1940s, Army started using platoons and were scorned for it.

There had been various rules restricting substitutions. Usually this prevented such as kicking specialists. I do not find detailed rules changes. One must possibly research year by year...
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The NCAA adopted a rule in 1941 for the 1942 season allowing unlimited substitution, due to manpower shortages due to the war. The NFL probably followed suit, though I find no mention.

In 1946, free substitution was withdrawn. Substitutions were limited to no more than three men at a time. The substitution rules had been relaxing during the 1930s, but were stricter than this. At first a player substituted for had to wait out the period to re-enter.

In 1949, free substitution was adopted for one year.
In 1950, unlimited free substitution was restored

In the early 1940s, Army started using platoons and were scorned for it.

There had been various rules restricting substitutions. Usually this prevented such as kicking specialists. I do not find detailed rules changes. One must possibly research year by year...
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74_75_78_79_ wrote:Can someone provide a somewhat detailed 'timeline' of sorts on how the age of the 60-minute-man went away?
The NCAA adopted a rule in 1941 for the 1942 season allowing unlimited substitution, due to manpower shortages due to the war. The NFL probably followed suit, though I find no mention.

In 1946, free substitution was withdrawn. Substitutions were limited to no more than three men at a time. The substitution rules had been relaxing during the 1930s, but were stricter than this. At first a player substituted for had to wait out the period to re-enter.

In 1949, free substitution was adopted for one year.
In 1950, unlimited free substitution was restored

In the early 1940s, Army started using platoons and were scorned for it.

There had been various rules restricting substitutions. Usually this prevented such as kicking specialists. I do not find detailed rules changes. One must possibly research year by year...
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The NCAA adopted a rule in 1941 for the 1942 season allowing unlimited substitution, due to manpower shortages due to the war. The NFL probably followed suit, though I find no mention.

In 1946, free substitution was withdrawn. Substitutions were limited to no more than three men at a time. The substitution rules had been relaxing during the 1930s, but were stricter than this. At first a player substituted for had to wait out the period to re-enter.

In 1949, free substitution was adopted for one year.
In 1950, unlimited free substitution was restored

In the early 1940s, Army started using platoons and were scorned for it.

There had been various rules restricting substitutions. Usually this prevented such as kicking specialists. I do not find detailed rules changes. One must possibly research year by year...
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