Coaches with two SB/NFL championships - make it make sense please

[saturdaysarebetter]

Coach A: 11 years, 114-62 .648 winning percentage, 10-5 post-season .667 winning percentage, 8 winning seasons, 9 non-losing seasons
Coach B: 15 years, 104-75-9 .581 winning percentage, 3-1 post-season .750 winning percentage, 10 winning seasons, 11 non-losing seasons
Coach C: 12 years, 97-87 .527 winning percentage, 8-3 post-season .727 winning percentage, 6 winning seasons, 7 non-losing seasons
Coach D: 20 years, 170-150 .531 winning percentage, 12-7 post-season .632 winning percentage, 10 winning seasons, 12 non-losing seasons
Coach E: 20 years, 170-138 .552 winning percentage, 8-6 post-season .571 winning percentage, 10 winning seasons, 13 non-losing seasons

Coach C is in the hall of fame.
He had the lowest regular season winning percentage of the five.
He had the lowest number of winning seasons and tied for the lowest rate of winning seasons (50%) of the five.
He had the lowest number of non-losing seasons and the lowest rate of non-losing seasons (58%) of the five.
Coach B had a higher winning percentage, a higher post-season winning percentage, a higher rate of winning seasons and a higher rate of non-losing seasons than Coach C.

Coach A is George Seifert
Coach B is Buddy Parker
Coach C is Tom Flores
Coach D is Tom Coughlin
Coach E is Mike Shanahan

Make it make sense please.

[Brian wolf]

Flores and Dungy have similar arguments as minority head coaches where both played--though Flores first hispanic starting pro QB--were head coaches, again Flores first hispanic HC--and both SB winners with both getting voted in as minority firsts.

Flores also was part of every Oakland/LA SB championship team that helped him get elected. Also one of only four players I believe, who was on an AFL roster during its entire league existence. Like Seifert, he also followed another HOF coach.

We all know Parker should have been elected, but a number of voters circumvented the rules and by-laws of the HOF to keep him from getting his deserved gold jacket. A sham.

[PaulPFHOF]

frankly since the 2020 Centennial class, the voters have made a complete mess of the coach queue, now only made worse by having them compete directly with seniors and contributors.

[Brian wolf]

Its a tough queue either way ... Unlike Parker, Flores was fortunate enough to parlay his two 80s' championships into the HOF. Being a minority player and HC gave him a leg up on other multiple championship winners in Seifert, Coughlin and Shanahan. What is weird was Vermeil getting elected with only one championship over those other four with two? Why didnt Holmgren get the same consideration two years ago? Especially coaching in three SB games? Even if the coaches category got seperated from the seniors or contributors, it may be awhile for an older coach to get elected.

Then of course, they change the rules where a HC can be eligible after a season out of the league, so what do they do? ... they reject a six time champion with nine conference championships.
Belichick should be a shoo-in this year but its doubtful we will see another first-ballot coach elected again. If they did, it would look even more stupid, especially with Reed coming up, who isnt no Belichick, though in fairness, he won with three different QBs, while Belichick only won with Brady.

Then there is Dan Reeves, whose career is similar to Levy and Grant ... can he somehow bypass the four, multiple championship winners, or even Holmgren? Does the rejection of Parker and Holmgren shut the door on Reeves, Shaw, Knox, Schottenheimer and Collier?

[rewing84]

In terms of Buddy Parker Brian : "A quantitative analysis of Buddy Parker's career reveals a coach who extracted short-term value from existing assets rather than generating sustainable franchise growth. When evaluating his full body of work beyond the inherited Detroit championships, his structural flaws become undeniable: he severely compromised his franchises' long-term outlook by trading away premium draft capital, failed to achieve a single postseason appearance with Chicago or Pittsburgh, and introduced severe operational instability by abruptly resigning on the eve of multiple seasons. Ultimately, his career represents a net-negative impact on long-term franchise health, which disqualifies him from Hall of Fame status.

[Brian wolf]

There are definite flaws to Parker's coaching resume, no doubt. Yet how many HCs take their teams to three straight championship games, winning two back-to-back without HOF recognition? He was a win-now coach as much as George Allen, who never won a championship and still got elected?

[PaulPFHOF]

Its a tough queue either way ... Unlike Parker, Flores was fortunate enough to parlay his two 80s' championships into the HOF. Being a minority player and HC gave him a leg up on other multiple championship winners in Seifert, Coughlin and Shanahan. What is weird was Vermeil getting elected with only one championship over those other four with two? Why didnt Holmgren get the same consideration two years ago? Especially coaching in three SB games? Even if the coaches category got seperated from the seniors or contributors, it may be awhile for an older coach to get elected.

Then of course, they change the rules where a HC can be eligible after a season out of the league, so what do they do? ... they reject a six time champion with nine conference championships.
Belichick should be a shoo-in this year but its doubtful we will see another first-ballot coach elected again. If they did, it would look even more stupid, especially with Reed coming up, who isnt no Belichick, though in fairness, he won with three different QBs, while Belichick only won with Brady.

Then there is Dan Reeves, whose career is similar to Levy and Grant ... can he somehow bypass the four, multiple championship winners, or even Holmgren? Does the rejection of Parker and Holmgren shut the door on Reeves, Shaw, Knox, Schottenheimer and Collier?

My point is that if voters had continued to elect HC regularly since 2020 the queue would have been reduced by at least 3 or 4 (Parker, MH, BB, MS?) and guys like Seifert and Coughlin would be in position to be considered. Alas we have those two remaining behind BB,MH and MS (thinking Parker's case is done). The current queue would be at least 1/2 the current size.

[Brian wolf]

Youre right Paul ...

Should have never been a contributor category. Should have been about players and coaches only, but every owner wanted their chance to get elected and be remembered. I hope there are no more elected ... Their homes and yachts can commemorate them.

[ChrisBabcock]

Youre right Paul ...

Should have never been a contributor category. Should have been about players and coaches only, but every owner wanted their chance to get elected and be remembered. I hope there are no more elected ... Their homes and yachts can commemorate them.

I cannot envision a scenario in which a current or future owner would be worthy of enshrinement.

[PFHOFlover]

Youre right Paul ...

Should have never been a contributor category. Should have been about players and coaches only, but every owner wanted their chance to get elected and be remembered. I hope there are no more elected ... Their homes and yachts can commemorate them.

do you realize without the contributor category Bill Polian Ron Wolf Eddie DeBartolo Jerry Jones Bobby Beathard Pat Bowlen Gil Brandt Steve Sabol Paul Tagliabue Bill Nunn and Art McNally would have never been elected how are Robert Kraft and Clint Murchison going to get elected if there’s no contributor category are you saying you hope Robert Kraft and Clint Murchison never get elected not every owner deserves to be in only the most deserving