NFL "what-if" scenarios thread

[CSKreager]

For all the love the 92-93 Cowboys get I've always been more impressed with the 95 team. They didn't have Jimmy Johnson but they had Larry Allen and played a tougher schedule that year than their 92-93 teams did. I don't feel like either of the 3 had as impressive of a season as the 91 Redskins though that they seem to overshadow. I feel like the 91 Redskins run was more impressive than any Super Bowl champs that followed them.

10 of Washington’s 14 wins in 1991 were against non playoff teams

[7DnBrnc53]

10 of Washington’s 14 wins in 1991 were against non playoff teams

Exactly. They are the 2001 Lakers of the NFL: Way more loved than they should be.

[Mark]

For all the love the 92-93 Cowboys get I've always been more impressed with the 95 team. They didn't have Jimmy Johnson but they had Larry Allen and played a tougher schedule that year than their 92-93 teams did. I don't feel like either of the 3 had as impressive of a season as the 91 Redskins though that they seem to overshadow. I feel like the 91 Redskins run was more impressive than any Super Bowl champs that followed them.

10 of Washington’s 14 wins in 1991 were against non playoff teams

As I have stated before this is one of the dumbest takes on here. Name some teams that most of their wins ARE against playoff teams. All your comments are "this team is overrated. If a team doesn't make the playoffs they are bad but if they do they are lucky. blah blah blah" Of course I shouldn't be here feeding a troll so maybe I am the dumb one.

[Mark]

10 of Washington’s 14 wins in 1991 were against non playoff teams

Exactly. They are the 2001 Lakers of the NFL: Way more loved than they should be.

How many of the 1996 to 1998 Broncos wins came against playoff teams?

[7DnBrnc53]

How many of the 1996 to 1998 Broncos wins came against playoff teams?

Not too many in the regular season, I admit. However, the 1991 Redskins get criticized partially because of the teams they beat in the playoffs (one-hit wonder Atlanta and the Lions), and because people online seem to hold this team up as the best ever, which it definitely wasn't.

[SeahawkFever]

How many of the 1996 to 1998 Broncos wins came against playoff teams?

Not too many in the regular season, I admit. However, the 1991 Redskins get criticized partially because of the teams they beat in the playoffs (one-hit wonder Atlanta and the Lions), and because people online seem to hold this team up as the best ever, which it definitely wasn't.

If I said 6th-8th or so for the 91 Skins, would you complain about it?

When I calculated the schedules out they showed up as harder than average if you go by opposing win percentage, and easier than average for a Super Bowl champion but still harder than I believe at least a quarter of them if you go by statistical separation of their opponents.

What I could say for the 91 Redskins though is the following:

In spite of a schedule adjustment down they show up as the highest statistical separation of any Super Bowl champion that played at least 16 games.

And they had nine players who were named first or second team all pro by the Associated Press, tied with the 2007 Patriots and 2012 49ers for most of any post-merger team, and they are the only one of those three to win a Super Bowl.

There are other teams that have more Hall of Fame caliber players (in that department they only had a peak Darrell Green, Art Monk, and Russ Grimm at the end of his career, and among those who aren’t in I say Joe Jacoby belongs as well but that’s just me), and others sustained higher levels of play for longer than they were able to.

But if you want to talk about thoroughly dominating a moment in time then there aren’t many teams that dominated their season more than the 91 Skins dominated 1991.

Were they in the right place in history to do everything they did? Absolutely.

But they went out and did it.

[7DnBrnc53]

But if you want to talk about thoroughly dominating a moment in time then there aren’t many teams that dominated their season more than the 91 Skins dominated 1991.

Were they in the right place in history to do everything they did? Absolutely.

But they went out and did it.

That doesn't make them a top-10 team of all-time.

[SeahawkFever]

But if you want to talk about thoroughly dominating a moment in time then there aren’t many teams that dominated their season more than the 91 Skins dominated 1991.

Were they in the right place in history to do everything they did? Absolutely.

But they went out and did it.

That doesn't make them a top-10 team of all-time.

What's another teams that they are about as good as in your book?

[SeahawkFever]

10 of Washington’s 14 wins in 1991 were against non playoff teams

Exactly. They are the 2001 Lakers of the NFL: Way more loved than they should be.

Minor nitpick, but I think a better comparison would have to be the 1970-71 Bucks.

The 70-71 Bucks and the 91 Redskins are both excellent teams who have a certain case for being one of the best teams ever in their respective leagues if you look at the statistical separation and don’t penalize teams as much for being in the right place at the right time.

Me personally, I think the schedules mark them down a few spots, but they still performed great.

[ShinobiMusashi]

I stand by my opinion that the 91 Redskins were better than any Super Bowl champ that followed them, but you can definitely nitpick their schedule, that criticism is valid. I would add to it that the Lions they beat early in the season were playing without Barry, and the Falcons they beat early in the season were playing without Deion, and they caught a Cardinals team in crisis after their QB they went all in on was lost for the year in preseason. So they got a huge break with their first 3 games.