Your Unpopular Football Opinions

[SeahawkFever]

Here are mine:

Troy Aikman was highly overrated as a QB- I think the 1992 Cowboys would have still gone 13-3 and won the Super Bowl if Steve Beurelein started every game that season

The 1980 Raiders were basically Jim Plunkett and the 1970s geezers hanging on for one more hurrah

The 1978-1979 Steelers were very fortunate IMO to not face New England or San Diego in those AFC-CG's as opposed to one-dimensional Houston

A question I have now after looking at this one:
Why do you think the Pats and Chargers would've been a tougher matchup in 1978 and 79 than Houston was? (Assuming you still think the same way given how old this post is)

As for Aikman, I don't know how misrated I'd call him given how often I see him labeled overrated now; though he was absolutely blessed with a great supporting cast.

[Northwoodssportsman]

Joe Montana is still the greatest quarterback of all-time. In order for somebody to consider the greatest of all-time, you need to win on a consistent basis in the playoffs and not choke in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady has three Super Bowl losses on his docket and he underperformed in two of them. Patrick Mahomes has two Super Bowl losses and he performed poorly in both of those games. If it was the Super Bowl and Montana was at QB for your team, there was no doubt you were going to win.

[RichardBak]

Otto Graham: 10 division titles and 7 championships in 10 years across 2 leagues. Hard to do much better than that.

[74_75_78_79_]

Joe Montana is still the greatest quarterback of all-time. In order for somebody to consider the greatest of all-time, you need to win on a consistent basis in the playoffs and not choke in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady has three Super Bowl losses on his docket and he underperformed in two of them. Patrick Mahomes has two Super Bowl losses and he performed poorly in both of those games. If it was the Super Bowl and Montana was at QB for your team, there was no doubt you were going to win.

Otto Graham: 10 division titles and 7 championships in 10 years across 2 leagues. Hard to do much better than that.

I ended up, after so much time, declared Tom IMO as the GOAT over Joe Cool. Here's exactly when I did so...

https://www.profootballresearchers.com/ ... php?t=5396

But the door has always been wide-open and off-the-hinges for a bounce-back even right after that very declaration. In fact, maybe a few times here-and-there I've tied them back up or even placed Joe back atop momentarily. I really think they're tied now with me overall all in the name of "apples and oranges". Yes, that 4-0 in Super Bowls is really what does it! But then, I say, had Joe actually reached ten Super Bowls, does he actually win ALL of them (are the New York Yankees 41-0 in the World Series, Montreal Canadians unbeaten in Stanley Cups, etc)?

As for just-outside-QB-'Rushmore' IMO...speaking of '4-0', I still have Bradshaw ahead of Mahomes because of Patrick still at 'just' 3 Rings and, yes, those two BIG black-eyes that are '20 to TB and '24 to Philly! Bart Starr, of course, still ahead of Patrick with me as well as Number Five, face up against the glass (cracking that very glass) pounding to get in! In the event of Patrick winning that 4th Ring, Bart & Terry will still be ahead of him IMO. And if the rest of Patrick's career were to go the way of Namath's career after '69...then he NEVER gets ahead of them (again, IMO).

Now back into 'Rushmore'...OTTO! What can you say? Yes with the TEN League Championship Games in TEN years of playing, winning SEVEN of them (just like Tom but these are ten CONSECUTIVE League Championship Games)! And if you feel that the Brown were the Best Team in Professional Football each of those four AAFC years, then even BETTER (okay, 3-for-4 with me; Eagles were better than them IMO in '49, but still).

And then the year after he retires they go 5-7? Any thought of "maybe they still struggle had he stayed in '56", to me, gets nipped in the bud considering all that already has been said. I'm what-if-friendly as you all know. But that is one of the most unnecessary football what-ifs to possibly entertain if not, actually, #1! He's got PLENTY of artillery in a he-vs-Brady debate. Same with 'U' albeit 'just' two World Championships and at least one 'black-eye' ('64; '67 finale?) of his own. Why even bother ranking the four? All belong within 'Rushmore' with me so there you have it.

But, man, Starr is JUST (JUST) outside, pounding and cracking that glass more and more!

[Brian wolf]

Joe Montana is still the greatest quarterback of all-time. In order for somebody to consider the greatest of all-time, you need to win on a consistent basis in the playoffs and not choke in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady has three Super Bowl losses on his docket and he underperformed in two of them. Patrick Mahomes has two Super Bowl losses and he performed poorly in both of those games. If it was the Super Bowl and Montana was at QB for your team, there was no doubt you were going to win.

I agree about Montana, but not about Brady. He didnt have his best games in the SB losses but lost leads in the final minutes as well. The Giants did a good job with their pass rush and got to him in both games. Brady threw a beautiful pass at the end of the 2007/08 Giants loss, but Moss misjudged it and couldnt get to it. The Patriots receivers dropped passes that hurt them in the second Giants loss, also ... Brady had the big fumble against Philly, but the Patriots defense was terrible, and needed Brady's passing just to stay in the game.

I agree about Mahomes. His performance in the loss to Philly was identical to the loss to the Bucs. He was running for his life and making risky throws. Just bad games for the Chiefs overrall.

[7DnBrnc53]

Joe Montana is still the greatest quarterback of all-time. In order for somebody to consider the greatest of all-time, you need to win on a consistent basis in the playoffs and not choke in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady has three Super Bowl losses on his docket and he underperformed in two of them. Patrick Mahomes has two Super Bowl losses and he performed poorly in both of those games. If it was the Super Bowl and Montana was at QB for your team, there was no doubt you were going to win.

This first sentence is what I have been talking about.

In 1980, nobody was calling Terry Bradshaw and Bart Starr the best ever. They went undefeated in title games as well, but that doesn't get talked about.

How is Joe Montana's 4-0 better than theirs? He faced inferior competition in his SB wins than Bradshaw did, and I'm not sure that those 80's AFC Teams were as good as some of the teams that Starr beat in championship games.

[Brian wolf]

Bart Starr won both SBs and five other championship games but lost to the Eagles in 1960. Bradshaw won the four SBs like Montana but went 8-2 overrall in championship games. Montana went 8-3, losing to the 83 Redskins, 90 Giants and 93 Bills with KC.