2026 Hall of Fame Seniors - Last 52 Ranked by Position Group

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Tasker, White Shoes, Mitchell — they're there for their special teams play.
sluggermatt15 wrote: Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:40 pm
rewing84 wrote: Thu Oct 09, 2025 3:28 pm Brian i could definitely see hilgenberg dilweg and parrish as senior semifinialists, as for Tasker im not sure about him like you said id like to see Bobby Boyd as a senior semifinialist
Special teams isn't a "position". Tasker should be listed as a wide receiver, which is what he was.
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Brian wolf wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:25 am Thanks Ken ... in a nutshell, any word on why Lester Hayes was dropped, or just different member, subjectivity?
My guess is different makeup of the committee. They have not met in person yet, so it is tough to say unless the voters mention why they voted the way they did in the cutdown votes.
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Thanks ... you would think with cutdowns being so important and players hanging in the balance that everyone would be meeting face-to-face, sharing information, improving communication, media urgency, etc ?
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Ken Crippen wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 2:40 pm
Brian wolf wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:25 am Thanks Ken ... in a nutshell, any word on why Lester Hayes was dropped, or just different member, subjectivity?
My guess is different makeup of the committee. They have not met in person yet, so it is tough to say unless the voters mention why they voted the way they did in the cutdown votes.
Do some of the voters hold stickum against Hayes?
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That's a good q on if/who holds stickum against him. Lester had a few years were he committed an unreasonable amount of penalties.
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pgconboy wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:09 pm That's a good q on if/who holds stickum against him. Lester had a few years were he committed an unreasonable amount of penalties.
And that's sort of the problem - I've charted ~20% of his career games and he really is very borderline. Is there another player ever who's reputation is so largely colored by a single monster season? And by '85 and '86 he's legitimately fat and really is a liability in coverage. AP1 - once (+DPOY), AP2 - once, PB - five times. Honestly, of DPOY winners he's up there as having the worst overall career.

DPOY winners who had better careers: Page, Greene, Blount, Lambert, Martin, Gradishar, Selmon, LT, Easley, Singletary, Reggie, Bruce, Swilling, Kennedy, Rod Woodson, Deion, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Strahan, Derrick Brooks, Ed Reed, Urlacher, Jason Taylor, James Harrison, Charles Woodson, Polamalu, Suggs, JJ, Kuechley, Mack, Donald, TJ, Nick Bosa, Myles Garrett

DPOY Winners who were similar: Dick Anderson, Keith Millard, Bryce Paup, Dana Stubblfield, Bob Sanders, Stephon Gilmore

DPOY winners with worse careers: Doug Betters??

Too recent to rate: Surtain II

And all that said - he was a VERY fun player to watch just because he was so different.
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NWebster wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:14 pm
pgconboy wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:09 pm That's a good q on if/who holds stickum against him. Lester had a few years were he committed an unreasonable amount of penalties.
And that's sort of the problem - I've charted ~20% of his career games and he really is very borderline. Is there another player ever who's reputation is so largely colored by a single monster season? And by '85 and '86 he's legitimately fat and really is a liability in coverage. AP1 - once (+DPOY), AP2 - once, PB - five times. Honestly, of DPOY winners he's up there as having the worst overall career.

DPOY winners who had better careers: Page, Greene, Blount, Lambert, Martin, Gradishar, Selmon, LT, Easley, Singletary, Reggie, Bruce, Swilling, Kennedy, Rod Woodson, Deion, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Strahan, Derrick Brooks, Ed Reed, Urlacher, Jason Taylor, James Harrison, Charles Woodson, Polamalu, Suggs, JJ, Kuechley, Mack, Donald, TJ, Nick Bosa, Myles Garrett

DPOY Winners who were similar: Dick Anderson, Keith Millard, Bryce Paup, Dana Stubblfield, Bob Sanders, Stephon Gilmore

DPOY winners with worse careers: Doug Betters??

Too recent to rate: Surtain II

And all that said - he was a VERY fun player to watch just because he was so different.
appreciate the information nwebster i have him as borderline too
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NWebster wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:14 pm
pgconboy wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:09 pm That's a good q on if/who holds stickum against him. Lester had a few years were he committed an unreasonable amount of penalties.
And that's sort of the problem - I've charted ~20% of his career games and he really is very borderline. Is there another player ever who's reputation is so largely colored by a single monster season? And by '85 and '86 he's legitimately fat and really is a liability in coverage. AP1 - once (+DPOY), AP2 - once, PB - five times. Honestly, of DPOY winners he's up there as having the worst overall career.

DPOY winners who had better careers: Page, Greene, Blount, Lambert, Martin, Gradishar, Selmon, LT, Easley, Singletary, Reggie, Bruce, Swilling, Kennedy, Rod Woodson, Deion, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Strahan, Derrick Brooks, Ed Reed, Urlacher, Jason Taylor, James Harrison, Charles Woodson, Polamalu, Suggs, JJ, Kuechley, Mack, Donald, TJ, Nick Bosa, Myles Garrett

DPOY Winners who were similar: Dick Anderson, Keith Millard, Bryce Paup, Dana Stubblfield, Bob Sanders, Stephon Gilmore

DPOY winners with worse careers: Doug Betters??

Too recent to rate: Surtain II

And all that said - he was a VERY fun player to watch just because he was so different.
I always thought that in 1980 the desxerving DPOY was Lester's teammate Ted Hendricks. I remember that the previous year many considered Hendricks washed up, but he had a monster year, being all over the field, guiding the Raiders to Super Bowl XV victory.
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