Something dumb that you remember about watching the NFL

[Sonny9]

I'm not particularly fond of the name change either but "Redskins" was offensive to real-life, modern Amerinds.
I have/had an American Indian friend who found the term very objectionable. She said she was OK with respectful Indian names like the Warriors (I have no idea of that name was chosen for Amerind Warriors) but Redskins and Chief Wahoo, etc. were not OK with her and her family/tribe.
I think The Washington Warriors would've made an excellent name (and the team could've kept their logo, etc.) but I guess they couldn't work out a deal to share with the NBA team.

Times do change. Just about any group name can be considered offensive. All depends on how one wants to take it in context.
Cowhands was the name for those who tended cattle. Cowboys was originally used in a derogatory name.

Redskins referred to the red war paint.
A Blackfeet warrior draws a picture of a Blackfeet Chief, all of Blackfoot nation was behind it. It was a way to be remembered.

[JeffreyMiller]

Baseball diamond in fields... players tripping on the ridges between the dirt and the grass or the pitchers mound.

[Mark]

The color rush stuff the league was doing was the worst. The one game where both teams wore dark home unis, one red and one green was a low point for NFL uniforms.

Both teams wearing dark jerseys was the norm until the 1950s and the rise of TV when in black and white people could differentiate the teams very well. Alternative jerseys were also sometimes used.https://www.gridiron-uniforms.com/GUD/c ... ction=main is a great resource. Having said that I am not a fan of alternative nor throwback jerseys. I hated the color rush as well. The prefer the old standard of a white jersey and a dark jersey and nothing else. I guess I am just boring. I also never liked dark jerseys with dark pants.

[Ten Minute Ticker]

The whole Redskins name change deal. Yeah it was a pretty bad word at one time under a certain context. Things change over time. The word gay does not mean the same thing that it did back then either, you don't see people running around talking about man I feel so gay right now like they did in the 30's anymore. Literally nobody in this day and age is running around calling natives Redskins in racist context. In stirring all this up you educated a whole generation of people my age that this was even a thing, I had no idea. I think the football team actually did the work of changing what that word meant to natives....

I'm not particularly fond of the name change either but "Redskins" was offensive to real-life, modern Amerinds.
I have/had an American Indian friend who found the term very objectionable. She said she was OK with respectful Indian names like the Warriors (I have no idea of that name was chosen for Amerind Warriors) but Redskins and Chief Wahoo, etc. were not OK with her and her family/tribe.
I think The Washington Warriors would've made an excellent name (and the team could've kept their logo, etc.) but I guess they couldn't work out a deal to share with the NBA team.

Here's an experiment for those who think "Redskins" is no longer an offensive term: Go to my birthplace, Shawano, WI, on a Saturday when a lot of Menominees are in town shopping. Approach one of them and say something like, "Hi, Redskin, how are you?" NB: Make sure you try this on an elderly woman or a child. Do NOT try it with an able-bodied male.

Thank you for saying that.

I will also say that it takes a lot of gall for people to decide what a word means when they’re not a part of the group the word describes.

[slats7]

Times do change. Just about any group name can be considered offensive. All depends on how one wants to take it in context.
Cowhands was the name for those who tended cattle. Cowboys was originally used in a derogatory name.

Redskins referred to the red war paint.
A Blackfeet warrior draws a picture of a Blackfeet Chief, all of Blackfoot nation was behind it. It was a way to be remembered.
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These guys didn't realize they were being insulted until white, woke, elitist sportswriters said so. The only reason the Indians and Redskins changed their name is because of the George Floyd fiasco. It had nothing to do with a "crisis of conscience" or "doing the right thing." It was cowardly white owners and corporations running scared. Snyder, especially, because he was doing everything possible to hold on to his team.

[Mark]

I am a fan of the team but there were Native American groups that complained about the name years ago so this narrative about it only being a recent "woke" thing is false.

[ShinobiMusashi]

The whole Redskins name change deal. Yeah it was a pretty bad word at one time under a certain context. Things change over time. The word gay does not mean the same thing that it did back then either, you don't see people running around talking about man I feel so gay right now like they did in the 30's anymore. Literally nobody in this day and age is running around calling natives Redskins in racist context. In stirring all this up you educated a whole generation of people my age that this was even a thing, I had no idea. I think the football team actually did the work of changing what that word meant to natives....

I'm not particularly fond of the name change either but "Redskins" was offensive to real-life, modern Amerinds.
I have/had an American Indian friend who found the term very objectionable. She said she was OK with respectful Indian names like the Warriors (I have no idea of that name was chosen for Amerind Warriors) but Redskins and Chief Wahoo, etc. were not OK with her and her family/tribe.
I think The Washington Warriors would've made an excellent name (and the team could've kept their logo, etc.) but I guess they couldn't work out a deal to share with the NBA team.

Here's an experiment for those who think "Redskins" is no longer an offensive term: Go to my birthplace, Shawano, WI, on a Saturday when a lot of Menominees are in town shopping. Approach one of them and say something like, "Hi, Redskin, how are you?" NB: Make sure you try this on an elderly woman or a child. Do NOT try it with an able-bodied male.

I was born in 1985 and the only people I've ever considered calling Redskins were people like Mark Rypien and Joe Jacoby. The context to walk around calling native american people by that never even registered in my head. The thought of going up to anybody in real life and greeting them by their skin color was never something I thought about either I think it just boils down to being a decent human being there with that. Like why would I walk up to a black friend "Hi black skin how are you", same applies. It's common sense and decency. The meaning and context of the word redskins had been completely changed and my generation had no idea it was even an insult. It is the same with the word gay, people literally used to run around screaming about how gay they were. "I'm the gayest man alive". That whole meaning of that changed for my generation. The Redskins controversy was just dead bones being dug up and not let go of. Then it became a headline. There was nothing racist about how that football team portrayed natives they were portrayed as something honorable and something to be respected I always thought.

[Sonny9]

I was born in 1985 and the only people I've ever considered calling Redskins were people like Mark Rypien and Joe Jacoby. The context to walk around calling native american people by that never even registered in my head. The thought of going up to anybody in real life and greeting them by their skin color was never something I thought about either I think it just boils down to being a decent human being there with that. Like why would I walk up to a black friend "Hi black skin how are you", same applies. It's common sense and decency. The meaning and context of the word redskins had been completely changed and my generation had no idea it was even an insult. It is the same with the word gay, people literally used to run around screaming about how gay they were. "I'm the gayest man alive". That whole meaning of that changed for my generation. The Redskins controversy was just dead bones being dug up and not let go of. Then it became a headline. There was nothing racist about how that football team portrayed natives they were portrayed as something honorable and something to be respected I always thought.

Agree with the sentiment but their skin color wasn't red. Red referred to their war paint

[ChrisBabcock]

I am a fan of the team but there were Native American groups that complained about the name years ago so this narrative about it only being a recent "woke" thing is false.

True. The Washington ownership pretended the name wasn't a problem until all their sponsorships, stadium vendors, etc. started pulling the plug and the name was removed to save their butt financially. Yes that was in 2020. (not coincidentally) It's all about the money.

[JuggernautJ]

Agree with the sentiment but their skin color wasn't red. Red referred to their war paint

Not to be argumentative but how do you know that?
Is there evidence contemporary to the naming that would show that to be the case?