Super Bowl 59 Talk

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Ness
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Super Bowl 59 Talk

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A three peat. Remarkable that a team is this close to getting it done. Sucks that's it's the Chiefs from my perspective, but they've been seemingly invincible in the Mahomes era. As much as the Eagles defense has looked stellar most of the season, and Barkley is an elite talent...I just think the Chiefs are going to finally come down with the W. Especially if it's close. 17 straight victories in one score games is absurd to the point that it doesn't even seem possible with a good amount of luck on your side.

I'll go Chiefs 28 over the Eagles 20. This will probably go down as the best dynasty ever with a three peat in the books. Even if the Patriots dominated longer in the end, they never had a peak like this.

BTW if the Chiefs win Kelce probably proposes to Taylor Swift. I might blackout by that point though due to utter disgust. Go Birds.
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Ness wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 6:59 am A three peat. Remarkable that a team is this close to getting it done. Sucks that's it's the Chiefs from my perspective, but they've been seemingly invincible in the Mahomes era. As much as the Eagles defense has looked stellar most of the season, and Barkley is an elite talent...I just think the Chiefs are going to finally come down with the W. Especially if it's close. 17 straight victories in one score games is absurd to the point that it doesn't even seem possible with a good amount of luck on your side.

I'll go Chiefs 28 over the Eagles 20. This will probably go down as the best dynasty ever with a three peat in the books. Even if the Patriots dominated longer in the end, they never had a peak like this.

BTW if the Chiefs win Kelce probably proposes to Taylor Swift. I might blackout by that point though due to utter disgust. Go Birds.
I agree. I'm rooting for the Birds, and not counting them out (won't be shocked if they win), but though I feel this will be an even closer game than two years ago, KC will find a way to win in the end. As I'm sure you'd agree, we should be open to the possibility that we have yet to see this very close-wins Chiefs installment at their best - and what a time/game for them to now come together for this. Again with the huge advantage at QB and HC in favor of KC.

Kelce has been quiet for quite some time. Maybe he plays a monster game. And how about Worthy? Something tells me that he'll do some big things. And, of course, Spags and Chris Jones & Co on the forever under the shadow of Mahomes/Reid other side of the ball. Barkley should have a heck of a game. And if the Birds need that Brotherly Shove play, they'll pull it off most times if not all times; but they succeeded two years ago vs KC with that play as well but still lost.

You say that it'd be a bummer that this very Chiefs team would be the team to finally three-peat for the first time since the '65-thru-'67 Packers. A Chiefs win next Sunday wouldn't place them close to that Dynasty with me. Each previous team that attempted to three-peat from the '74 Dolphins thru the '05 Pats I, of course, already see as having an overall stronger at-peak run than this current Chiefs Dynasty and still will see it that way with or without they completing the three-peat next Sunday. Again with the champions of yesteryear being simply stronger, having it tougher in their day.

But neither team did three-peat so you'll have to give KC historic credit in such an event. How easy is it to three-peat yet alone, simply, RE-peat in ANY era?? It'll be a Dynasty that I still respect win-or-lose next Sunday; blowout to Tampa Bay their only "black-eye" thus far which begs to appreciate that Brady/Arians installment all the more. Mahomes will still have some more ground to cover even with a three-peat, but he seems to be further along after 'Year 7' than Brady was upon he coming off his '18-1' disappointment. He'll have some way to go, but sure-enough he won't need an actual 20-year career to 'catch' him. But more quality-not-quantity work will need to be done.



When it comes to inter-conference/championship-game rivalries, BEARS/REDSKINS '37-thru-'43 are certainly King! The simple even-Steven 2-2 LCG tie between both along with 4-4 overall in that span forever remarkable. Second-place, despite not quite 'even', would be Lions/Browns of the 1950s.

From there, you got plenty of examples of two teams who played in two different championship games just a few years apart at most, consecutive-years in numerous cases. Eagles/Cardinals '47/'48, Browns/Rams '50/'51, Colts/Giants '58/'59, and Packers/Giants '61/'62 to name pre-SB era examples. And in the AFL you, of course, got OIlers/Chargers '60/'61 and Bills/Chargers '64/'65.

Only the first two of these examples given involve the losing team of the first game getting their revenge the next game. No such "revenge" has happened in the Super Bowl era - again - between two teams playing just a few years apart at most. Otherwise, we can include Mia/Wash and Pats/Eagles whose two meetings were at least a decade apart (almost two decades in the case of SBXXX).

Super Bowl era you got this current Eagles/Chiefs as well as these very Chiefs and San Fran, 2019/2023. Giants/Pats '07/'11, Dallas/Buffalo '92/'93, Forty Niners/Bengals '81/'88 ought to be close-enough to include, and last but not least...Steelers/Cowboys '75/'78.

That last one, of course, is my favorite. Biased, you can say, but that very two-some still nostalgically resonates with many non-fans of either team to this very day whenever both meet. Lopsided head-to-head margin between both teams in the '70s overall (1972, Wk#4, notwithstanding) but SBX & SBXIII were both close, Classic games that each could have gone the other way. Dal/Buf, sadly, the antithesis of this due to both games being lopsided. But all the others mentioned were pairs of close games.

Will the Eagles get their 'recent' revenge next Sunday? And if they do win, imagine a possible "rubber-band" match either next year already for SBLX, or maybe the next year or two!
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I feel the Eagles will get revenge this time, or the Chiefs will have four SBs against the same two teams, a first. With the Eagles you have to pick your poison --stop Barkley and Hurts-- or let Brown, Smith and Goedert have big games like their last SB matchup. I feel the Chiefs will try to take away the pass, their strength on defense, but if Barkley gets a big run early, the secondary will have to worry about tackling as much as coverage.

Like Jay Z said, this Chiefs team holds back plays and could have a gameplan, they can exploit against the young Eagle's secondary. The Eagles pass rush has to expose the tackles for the Chiefs or the receivers could get open all day. The Eagles HAVE to COVER Kelce but watch for his PICK plays as well, says Cap'n Obvious!
... haha
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KC finally loses a one-score game. I'm thinking along the lines of 28-24. I've been saying this all postseason: keep feeding Barkley da ball. No genius on my part. When Paul Brown once was asked about him possibly overusing Jim Brown, he replied, "When you got a big gun, you shoot it." Simple.
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Least anticipated SB rematch since Giants/Patriots II and at least that had a few more years between
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Brian wolf wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:04 pm ....The Eagles pass rush has to expose the tackles for the Chiefs or the receivers could get open all day....
I'd just like to see the officials (and therefore the league) enforce the rule regarding seven men on the line of scrimmage when the Chiefs have the ball.
It really isn't impartial to allow the Chiefs to have their tackles play "wing back" and off the line of scrimmage.
Watch a replay of the AFC championship game and notice the difference between the Chiefs and Bills regarding where the offensive tackles line up.
In a one score game not allowing that alignment could've made a significant difference.
Would the Bills have allowed the pressure/sacks in the final drive if their tackles had lined up a yard in the backfield as the Chiefs did all day?

I'm not sure I've seen the Chiefs line up in a legal offensive formation in the last two seasons (since Collinsworth pointed it out in the Monday night opener in 2023).
I'm not sure how much of a difference enforcing that rule would've made over the last two seasons but considering their record in one score games I'm pretty sure it could have been significant.

I don't have a dog in this fight but I'd like to see a well played, well officiated Super Bowl.
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I would too, JJ ... hopefully, the Eagles players and coaches get the referees to watch for the illegal tackle formations.

Rewatching that AFC Championship, that series where Allen was stopped on 4th down was decisive because the Bills not only had momentum but could have gotten to 29 --or 31 points without two-point failures--before the Chiefs did. That last Bills drive had a bad sequence on 3rd and 4th down. It has to stay in their heads but the Chiefs made the plays.
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Brian wolf wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:04 pm this Chiefs team holds back plays and could have a gameplan, they can exploit against the young Eagle's secondary. The Eagles pass rush has to expose the tackles for the Chiefs or the receivers could get open all day. The Eagles HAVE to COVER Kelce but watch for his PICK plays as well, says Cap'n Obvious!
... haha
KC's recievers are overrated

Hopkins is washed
Hollywood hasn't been good in years
Worthy is basically all speed no route

The Chiefs roster from top to bottom would be a 9-10 loss roster without #15 bailing the team out
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While everybody wants to talk about Mahomes, KC has quietly built one of the NFL's best defenses. They're 4th in scoring defense, giving up only 19.2 points per game.
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CSKreager wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:02 am
Brian wolf wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:04 pm this Chiefs team holds back plays and could have a gameplan, they can exploit against the young Eagle's secondary. The Eagles pass rush has to expose the tackles for the Chiefs or the receivers could get open all day. The Eagles HAVE to COVER Kelce but watch for his PICK plays as well, says Cap'n Obvious!
... haha
KC's recievers are overrated

Hopkins is washed
Hollywood hasn't been good in years
Worthy is basically all speed no route

The Chiefs roster from top to bottom would be a 9-10 loss roster without #15 bailing the team out
What do you think of their defense?
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