True. And Paul Brown never won anything without Otto Graham. Tom Landry never won anything without Roger Staubach. Bill Belichick never won anything without Tom Brady. That doesn't mean any of them were "chokers," let alone "generational chokers." That's just cheap trash talk, whether it comes from a talking head on TV or somebody watching on the sofa. It drags down any intelligent conversation.
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Haha ... I think CS, likes to stir the pot like I do. My comments and skepticism are just more long-winded. Hoping to work on that.
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Where you see stirring the pot, some of us see an endless supply of sour grapes. I don't know why he follows a sport that he seems to have nothing but contempt for, but that's none of my business.
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It’s hard to not have contempt when we have another stale rerun
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Yeah, Brian - no question that McNabb was very good for his era. I don't want anyone thinking I was trying to knock McNabb at all. Very good player. When I called him "good not great" I meant compared to Aikman, Mahomes, Brady, Montana, etc. Loved McNabb and I think he's a bit underrated historically because people don't talk about him much even though like you pointed out, not too many well known receivers around him.Brian wolf wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:43 pm McNabb had a helluva career without weapons, except for Owens briefly, Westbrook and some blue-collar tight ends. Like with Spags in KC, Reid had a great defense with Jim Johnson.
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No problem Jackson ... good but not good enough for the HOF. Had McNabb been more accurate and blocked out scrutiny better,
might have achieved even more but it helps to have a better supporting cast.
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Donovan McNabb... possible first ballot HoVG member in 2037!Brian wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:23 pm No problem Jackson ... good but not good enough for the HOF. Had McNabb been more accurate and blocked out scrutiny better,
might have achieved even more but it helps to have a better supporting cast.

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“Suddenly”???
Reid and Schottenheimer are both great coaches. Marty deserves a bust in Canton as much as any of the other coaches that didn’t win a championship.