Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets

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Rodgers has had many great attributes, but he was never without flaws. He was never the master of the two minute drill when you need that last minute score. Just taking the short dump offs was something he didn't want to do. He didn't force the ball either, interceptions weren't a problem. But he would throw the ball away or force it in a way where it wasn't intercepted but it wasn't caught either. That could be a lack of patience on his part.

Now on the other hand, if he needed to make some 30 yard throw, he had no equal there. If you're driving late it was almost better off to have him in that mode, have 30 seconds instead of 2 minutes.
Yeah, totally agree there. Many of Rodgers' best comebacks were on plays of gigantic gains, not on your typical John Elway or Joe Montana masterpiece. I contended at the time, and still do, that Rodgers would have had a far better chance of completing the Hail Mary Tom Brady tried on the final play of Super Bowl LII. (Although, Rodgers would have had a much lower chance at completing a two-point conversion following the potential TD.)

Here's one thing that all the pundits get wrong, but something I know from watching every game of his. The pundits all say "don't blitz Rodgers." On the contrary, that was always where Rodgers was most vulnerable. He'd often turtle when he saw six men coming his way. Is that better than Favre, who would heave one up into double coverage in the same situation? Maybe. But the myth of "don't blitz Rodgers" fooled nearly every announcer, and probably quite a few coaches too.
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Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets

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I felt Brady's SB Hail Mary was a great throw ... It didnt seem to me that Moss went up enough for it, but I need to look again.
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Re: Fiasco: Aaron Rodgers and the 2024 New York Jets

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JWL wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:58 pm If anybody watched all the Jets games this season and concluded Rodgers hasn't been part of the problem, I would suggest that person see a doctor.
I have seen almost all of them. No, he is not big a big problem, but have to disagree that there are issues.

He just cannot do what he used to do. And he still tries quite a bit. I could be wrong, of course, but I don't see the same pinpoint, unprecedented accuracy he used to have.

Now, is he washed up? No. He's still a good quarterback, very good. But not a Pro Bowl-level QB anymore.

With that defense, that should be good enough for them to have a much better record.

As for the rest? I am with you, the online is bad and the WRs don't seem to get open and it's not like it's all game, every game, but when they are on a roll it seems they break down and it's not one thing. False start, bad pass, dropped pass, a wrong route, fumble, tipped throw that is picked, any one or two of those ona drave and you're punting.

The defense, as good as it is, seems to be to have not come through in the clutch as they have in past. Again, it's only my eye test at this point, but they could be allowing very few yards ... but then they give up a long drive that puts a game out of reach.

I would need to maybe look at the 40 minute replays of the games --- but there is something off -- more than Rodgers.

This is not a Unitas to the Chargers or Namath to the Rams ... it's more like Favre to the Jets. Favre that year, played some great ball ... then there was an injury and he still played so it was not THE Brett Favre. Then he goes to Minny, who has a lot going from them ... he played great.

My view is that it's clear Rodgers has to realize he cannot make throws he used to, but he needs blockers who can protect him, and he and the receivers need to get in synch ... it's just hard to pinpoint, but it's never one guy and never one thing. But cumulatively the offense just goes, stops, stalls, goes, stalls ... it is really frustrating -- and I like Rodgers a lot.
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I still feel that with the right HC and more focus, health, and momentum next year, the Jets with Rodgers could win at least 9 games. Yes, he is not the same but is also rusty and needs protection.
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Brian wolf wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:01 pm I felt Brady's SB Hail Mary was a great throw ... It didnt seem to me that Moss went up enough for it, but I need to look again.
You're thinking of Super Bowl XLII... Moss was long gone by the time Brady had the chance at a tie in Super Bowl LII.
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