Yep. And to be honest I would totally be fine if they just completely separated the pre salary cap era of football (or at least when all these offensive friendly rules started being put forth around the mid to late 00's or so) from everything that came before. Stats and teams will not be compared by the on-air media. Everything now and everything then is just completely separated by the NFL.GameBeforeTheMoney wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:35 amI wouldn't be quite that harsh on Reid but totally agree that he's overrated. He stupidly went for the two points without any reason to do so against the Bengals at the end of the first half of the AFC Championship and that stop was the first thing to slide momentum Cincinnati's way.CSKreager wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:59 amJay Z wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:59 am Reid is being underrated here fairly significantly.
I said before the game the Chiefs would win and they would outcoach the 49ers. They outcoached the 49ers the last time, outcoached the Eagles, outcoached the 49ers again. I am very impressed by that. Above Landry, no question about it. Shula in the playoffs certainly.
They are winning on strategies and plays they are holding back for special occasions. Mahomes numbers are down significantly. Other than Kelce those receivers are crap, replacement level. About the level of the 1986 Giants. It affects Mahomes' numbers. Apparently Reid is significantly underrated on this board. I'll take up his cause.
Reid is not underrated…. HE’S OVERRATED
KC wins in spite of Reid, not because of him
Outcoached? He’s still the same guy that was a generational choke artist until Mahomes fell into his lap.
This year, he stupidly went for it on fourth down instead of kicking a field goal against Baltimore in the first half and it ended up putting Baltimore back in the game. Guys like Walsh, Gibbs, Landry, Shula - that's just laughable to guys like that. They would NEVER entertain the idea of giving the opponent ANY chance to gain any sort of momentum.
Does he win more than other coaches of this time period? Yes. But we're in the age where coaches forgo tying games to go for it on fourth down. The NFC Championship was lost on dumb stuff like that.
Reid coaching against any of these guys mentioned, Noll, Lombardi - I mean, there isn't a comparison IMO. We're in a time period where the most successful coaches are guys like Reid, McCarthy, Kyle Shannahan, even Bruce Arians won a Super Bowl. Those guys are nowhere near the coaching level of the old guard.
Comparisons to Reid - maybe Schottenheimer. Good coach, did a really good job with multiple teams, but he's not Chuck Noll level. Belichick - I'd put him high up there, but Andy Reid? His success is there but - and I don't want to sound like a grumpy old fan - but the level of coaching talent and decision making isn't the same as it was back then. All these head coaches today are assistant level compared with the other guys, IMO.
It drives me crazy when on air media is comparing these current Chiefs teams to the '70's Steelers, 80's 49ers, or 90's Cowboys. Those teams would run these Chiefs teams out of the building and back onto the plane and tell them if they know what's good for them don't come back.