Consequences of the Jets allowing the Raiders to score

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Consequences of the Jets allowing the Raiders to score

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We all know it's happened in football and other sports before. Recently there was a documentary of the Pittsburgh Penguins 1983 season where they attempted to finish with the worst record in the NHL in order to draft Mario Lemieux. I remember one particular scene where they talk about a rookie goalie that got brought up, played well, and was subsequently demoted

Tanking is not as easy as it looks. These are men playing for jobs. But coaches who are aware of their employers wishes have and can acted puzzlingly inept in key spots in order to put his players in the worst possible position to defend a play. Sometimes it works, sometimes even the dumbest possible decisions get the job done (to the chagrin of ownership) and you win despite trying to lose

This is what Gregg William did vs New England earlier in the season, and it's what he did yesterday in order to allow the Raiders to score (they should've scored the play before too.

Williams employer very much wants Trevor Lawrence. What he did was in accordance to the wishes of his employer however unethical it was, he was following some sort of unspoken wink & nudge instructions. Williams was of course in bountygate. He is not above smoky back room nonsense.

Suppose Williams put the proper defense on the field and the Jets won. They would lose Lawrence forever. And the Jets would make sure it gets out around the league that Williams is disloyal and untrustworthy. He would essentially have gone rogue.

I really think at this point and NFL Draft Lottery is coming and it's coming soon. The optics of this are very very bad
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I will respond in full later but for starters Williams was fired today.

I am sure the tin foil hat theory here being Williams took one for the team and the firing was to give him a head start on finding his next job. It also makes "the tank" look not like a tank when you fire someone for incompetence although in this theory Williams purposefully lost the game so he is like a genius and might pursue a career in nuclear physics.
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sheajets wrote:Tanking is not as easy as it looks.
It seems pretty easy to me. Just hire Adam Gase as your HC. If that doesn't work, then hire Bill O'Brien to be your GM.
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Bryan wrote:It seems pretty easy to me. Just hire Adam Gase as your HC. If that doesn't work, then hire Bill O'Brien to be your GM.
Can make it an organizational decision instead, say go all-in on "analytics" and then go a combined 1-31 over two years.
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sheajets wrote: Tanking is not as easy as it looks. These are men playing for jobs. But coaches who are aware of their employers wishes have and can acted puzzlingly inept in key spots in order to put his players in the worst possible position to defend a play. Sometimes it works, sometimes even the dumbest possible decisions get the job done (to the chagrin of ownership) and you win despite trying to lose

This is what Gregg William did vs New England earlier in the season, and it's what he did yesterday in order to allow the Raiders to score (they should've scored the play before too.
Nelson Agholor is one of the fastest receivers in the league. He split two defenders one of whom is very inexperienced. Derek Carr's pass was too long. If Agholor did catch it he also would have had to have held onto the ball and be in the end zone. He would have had two defenders on top of him. I don't know that the Raiders "should have" scored on the play.


sheajets wrote: Williams employer very much wants Trevor Lawrence. What he did was in accordance to the wishes of his employer however unethical it was, he was following some sort of unspoken wink & nudge instructions. Williams was of course in bountygate. He is not above smoky back room nonsense.

Suppose Williams put the proper defense on the field and the Jets won. They would lose Lawrence forever. And the Jets would make sure it gets out around the league that Williams is disloyal and untrustworthy. He would essentially have gone rogue.

If the Jets were trying to lose, why the heck were they leading Las Vegas 28-24 with 13 seconds left? If Williams and the Jets are great manipulators, then why didn't they manipulate a 12-0 record instead of a 0-12 one?

Neville Hewitt almost got to Carr. Carr also had to step up in the pocket and had to throw a pass the length of half the field. That is not easy to do.

Let's not give any credit to the Raiders. Let's not knock the inexperienced Lamar Jackson who bit on a double move.

No. It's all Gregg Williams and his actors. Maybe Williams will go into directing movies now since he has mastered the art of making NFL games look on the level but when in reality they are not. He can hire Lamar Jackson for a starring role. Jackson made it look like he is a young cornerback trying to figure things out. We all here know the deal, though. Jackson was acting. He made it look like he messed up but he purposefully gave up that touchdown. I like him for a dramatic role. I could see Jackson as a cool, fit detective or maybe as a bad guy in the next Liam Neeson ass kicker film.


sheajets wrote: I really think at this point and NFL Draft Lottery is coming and it's coming soon.
It is not.


sheajets wrote: The optics of this are very very bad
Yes, in the sense that the Jets looked like fools on that play.
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0-10 team loses another game to fall to 0-11...Conspiracy Unmasked!
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This thread is now even more pathetic considering the Jets purposefully won a game today.
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Lol, the happenings of this past weekend remind me of what a comedian said during one of the NFL's top 10 lists. He said when he was a kid he was into the Jets. Then he got into girls but decided to get into the Jets again as he realized there are times when a girl won't F you........but the Jets will always F you.
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lastcat3 wrote:Lol, the happenings of this past weekend remind me of what a comedian said during one of the NFL's top 10 lists. He said when he was a kid he was into the Jets. Then he got into girls but decided to get into the Jets again as he realized there are times when a girl won't F you........but the Jets will always F you.
Yeah, I remember that. Artie Lange was the comedian who said that.

Speaking of the Jets, a fan of theirs wrote this article on Ringer:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2020/12/2 ... fl-week-15

The Jet win over the Rams reminded him of 2007, when they beat the Chiefs in OT in Week 17 and moved out of position to get Matt Ryan.
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