Expansion in the 60's with no AFL

[Mark L. Ford]

Let's say that Lamar Hunt gets enough stake in the Cardinals in 1959 to move them to Dallas (and maybe rename them the Texans).

How long do you think it would take for the league to expand?

And, how long do you think that it would take for a new league to form if the NFL doesn't expand fairly soon?

My feeling is that if the AFL hadn't been the rival, a different league would have been organized by 1961. There were three TV networks and only one could get the NFL. Guys like Bud Adams and Bob Howsam and Max Winter had been itching to get into pro football, and that era was big on people wanting to become pro sports owners. There was baseball's Continental League (which led to the Mets and several other MLB expansion teams), the American Basketball League (bankrupt after a year and a half) and a couple of other pro football league dreamers like Jack Corbett and Travis Tidwell.

However, I think that it took a Lamar Hunt to organize and maintain a fully successful competitor, rather than one that would fold after its best teams went to the NFL.

[sheajets]

Boston and a 2nd New York team definitely come into the mix, but probably not until the 1970's. The Giants pretty much had everything from Central NJ through french canada to themselves by then, so I would expect them to try and stave off any expansion in that area as long as possible.

[BD Sullivan]

the American Basketball League (bankrupt after a year and a half)

Where George Steinbrenner trained to be an overbearing jackass.

[oldecapecod11]

It seems something odd just happened here?
After two PFRA Members posted with praise for other websites, suddenly those posts were left at the bottom of a page
and a NEW page started.

In some cases, of course, this can be the luck of the draw.

It was noted in the old forum that some posters tried to schedule their entries so that they could be at the top of a new page.
It was easy because there were only 20 posts per page and it was cute and fun to watch.

In this new site, the pages are controlled by characters (not people: letters, numbers, symbols, etc.)
A page will accept up to 60,000 characters.
Page 1 of this thread barely has a little over 5,000 characters contained in only 10 posts?

So, is this starting of a fresh page an option we have? If so, where do we find the function process?

Or, is this an option allowed only a select few?
If so, it seems strange that these few are so concerned with something everyone knows:
other people and organizations than the PFRA operate good websites.

[Mark L. Ford]

Are you saying that those posts were at the top of page 2 yesterday, and that they moved to the bottom of page 1?

[oldecapecod11]

No.