MMQB All-Time NFL Draft - Very restricted QB List

[TanksAndSpartans]

If you were asked to participate in a fantasy draft where the QBs were restricted to the list below, how would you rank them? If you only want to rank the top few and leave the rest unranked, that helps too. Guessing Brodie will be on most lists. Thanks!

Andre Ware
Bernie Kosar
Bill Wade
Bobby Hebert
Bubby Brister
Dave Krieg
Greg Landry
Jeff Hostetler
Jim Harbaugh
Jim Hart
Jim Zorn
John Brodie
Ken O’Brien
Lynn Dickey
Mark Rypien
Neil O’Donnell
Steve Bartowski
Steve Grogan
Tommy Kramer

[ChrisBabcock]

Do we get to pick which season of their career they are playing in?

[TanksAndSpartans]

Do we get to pick which season of their career they are playing in?

Sure, that's fine - there is a type of fantasy draft where you specify the season - I did that for my 30s draft which I posted as a HOF/HOVG thread. I think the single season approach gives Kosar and Hebert a chance to rank high - Hebert, you may have to pick a USFL season though

[JWL]

If you are rankings these guys on the height of their playing abilities you have to consider John Brodie because he won a season MVP award. Mark Rypien has to be high atop the list due to his 1991 season and the Super Bowl win. Ken O'Brien would have to be right up there based on his 1985 season.

If you are basing this on a series of years, you would have to eliminate Rypien and O'Brien as both only had a few seasons that could be considered good.

I do like Hart, Brodie, and Kosar as far as guys who had several good seasons. Maybe Dave Krieg belongs in that group too.

Andre Ware was an awful NFL quarterback.

The rest of the guys mentioned were mostly mediocre.

[TanksAndSpartans]

Thanks JWL - Brodie, Hart, and Kosar were who I was thinking as well and Ware is the outlier - PFR only has him with 6 NFL starts, but I think we all know him from the Heisman. Someone on another board ranked them by Approximate Value (AV- created by PFR founder Doug Drinen, the method is an attempt to put a single number on the seasonal value of a player at any position from any year (since 1950)). That method made intuitive sense with Hart, Brodie, and Krieg doing well and Ware last, although I was surprised to see Kosar so low. Last point - not my intention, but I was a bit surprised that Brodie is in the HOVG, yet he really doesn't even jump off the page as the undisputed best of this list, was he a poor choice?

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[JuggernautJ]

I don't think Brodie was a poor choice (but then I'm a 49ers fan old enough to remember those teams).

Brodie's Niners lost the NFC Championship in 1970 and 1971 (in heartbreaking fashion) to the Cowboys and were eliminated by them in the 1973 playoffs, also. The point being those 49ers were pretty good teams and part of an historic rivalry.
Brodie's MVP season in 1970 probably put him over the top for the HoVG.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... odJo00.htm

[JuggernautJ]

Re: The OP and the list.

That order looks pretty good to me. Since it is based on career AV it is for the career of each player, not a single year. Longer careers are rewarded by the accumulative nature of the list.

My personal preference might be to move Bartkowski, Kosar, Landry and O'Brien up a notch or two and Harbaugh, Krieg and Zorn down a spot or two but generally the list is defensible as is.

[TanksAndSpartans]

Thanks JuggernautJ - I never saw Brodie play, so thanks for adding that perspective. Seems like QB, thinking of Morrall and Brodie emphasize post season honors less than other positions - not saying that's bad - just interesting.

Someone on the other board mentioned that the list rewards stat compiling and Krieg fumbled too much. What if you had to win one game? Who do you take? Dickey had one pretty good season, Hebert showed some talent in the USFL, but Kosar, like Brodie actually led his team to competitive AFC/NFC championship games. For Kosar, from what I recall his backs were better than his receivers. Hart never won a playoff game.