AAFC "rejected" by Scott Kacsmar‏

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This is one reason I don't do twitter. Who is this clown anyway?
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JohnH19 wrote:This is one reason I don't do twitter. Who is this clown anyway?
Looks like he used to write for Bleacher Report and now contributes to Football Outsiders as well as having a blog at wordpress.com. And apparently he tweets a lot. Not the highest of credentials, it seems.

Regardless, it's what you say that counts, and that pair of tweets merits no respect.
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I don't use twitter either. Looks like the "pro Graham" side did ok in the debate from the screenshots. I vaguely recall someone did look at the "absorption rate" of AAFC players into the NFL as a proxy for the talent level of the AAFC, but I don't recall the results or where I read it. I once posted hypothetical "super bowls" for the 4 seasons 46-49 on a different board. I think the majority of respondents thought the Browns would split.

Was the original debate about where Graham ranks among all-time QBs?
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TanksAndSpartans wrote:
Was the original debate about where Graham ranks among all-time QBs?

Yes. Calls he and Elway most overrated all time
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JohnTurney wrote:
TanksAndSpartans wrote:
Was the original debate about where Graham ranks among all-time QBs?

Yes. Calls he and Elway most overrated all time
NFL films top 100 had Montana, Unitas, Manning, and Baugh all ahead of Graham. I'd probably argue the other way and say he's underrated. I know it's a team sport, but 10 championship games in 10 seasons and no one I've ever mentioned that to had any idea before I told them - seems odd to say a player the average fan never heard of is overrated.
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He says that he is a film buff. That obviously does not include game film.
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bachslunch wrote:Looks like he used to write for Bleacher Report and now contributes to Football Outsiders as well as having a blog at wordpress.com. And apparently he tweets a lot. Not the highest of credentials, it seems.
I remember when Football Outsiders was a stat-geek site that was beholden to a wacky "success points" DVOA formula that was more closely guarded than Colonel Sanders' recipe. Over the years FO has 'devolved' into a "hot take" morass under the guise of statistical enlightenment...my recent algorithm says Bert Jones is the best QB ever, I bet you didn't know that...Paul Warfield is the most overrated player of all-time because he only had one 1000-yard season, I bet you didn't know that...completely baseless 'journalism' at best.
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Ken Crippen wrote:He says that he is a film buff. That obviously does not include game film.
Ouch. Well played, sir. Well played.
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JohnH19 wrote:This is one reason I don't do twitter.
Same.
Bryan wrote:I remember when Football Outsiders was a stat-geek site that was beholden to a wacky "success points" DVOA formula that was more closely guarded than Colonel Sanders' recipe. Over the years FO has 'devolved' into a "hot take" morass under the guise of statistical enlightenment...my recent algorithm says Bert Jones is the best QB ever, I bet you didn't know that...Paul Warfield is the most overrated player of all-time because he only had one 1000-yard season, I bet you didn't know that...completely baseless 'journalism' at best.
Exactly. Though I would say they haven't devolved since they've always operated "under the guise of statistical enlightenment". Nonsense from the jump.
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