Clark Judge on WRs and HOF
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bachslunch
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Agreed, very perceptive and nicely researched article. He lists and discusses 10 E-WR types, all fine choices: Dilweg, Speedie, Howton, Wilson, Jackson, Branch, Carmichael, Pearson, Ellard, and Sharpe.
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Gary Najman
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Re: Clark Judge on WRs and HOF
Great list, and I woukd like to know his opinion on Irving Fryar and Stanley Morgan. He has a mistake, Branch has been discussed in the past.bachslunch wrote:Agreed, very perceptive and nicely researched article. He lists and discusses 10 E-WR types, all fine choices: Dilweg, Speedie, Howton, Wilson, Jackson, Branch, Carmichael, Pearson, Ellard, and Sharpe.
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bachslunch
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Cliff Branch was a semifinalist at one point if memory serves but has never been a finalist, so he has never been "discussed in the room." He might have been on a final 10 Senior list, but not sure if that counts as being "discussed."Teo wrote:Great list, and I woukd like to know his opinion on Irving Fryar and Stanley Morgan. He has a mistake, Branch has been discussed in the past.bachslunch wrote:Agreed, very perceptive and nicely researched article. He lists and discusses 10 E-WR types, all fine choices: Dilweg, Speedie, Howton, Wilson, Jackson, Branch, Carmichael, Pearson, Ellard, and Sharpe.
Re: Clark Judge on WRs and HOF
I would rank the non-HOF WRs as follows:
1) Speedie, Sharpe, Dilweg = best at their positions
2) Branch, Pearson = among the best and great postseason resumes
3) Jackson, Howton = contextual numbers are good
4) Wilson, Carmichael, Ellard = all fine WRs, but I'm just not feeling any heat from them
1) Speedie, Sharpe, Dilweg = best at their positions
2) Branch, Pearson = among the best and great postseason resumes
3) Jackson, Howton = contextual numbers are good
4) Wilson, Carmichael, Ellard = all fine WRs, but I'm just not feeling any heat from them
Re: Clark Judge on WRs and HOF
How about Del Shofner, Bryan?
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TanksAndSpartans
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Re: Clark Judge on WRs and HOF
I've been gradually collecting and watching the old Tel Ra videos and granted they are weekly highlight videos, so its not the same as watching game film, but I've been really impressed with Billy Howton. He's one of those players that I wasn't looking for (mostly looking to see HOFers), but he just jumps out at you (the other surprise being Giants RB Eddie Price).
Great list - could have made Dilweg's case stronger by mentioning his defense, but glad to see him mentioned at all.
Great list - could have made Dilweg's case stronger by mentioning his defense, but glad to see him mentioned at all.
Re: Clark Judge on WRs and HOF
I think you'd have to put him in the first tier, since he was the best WR in the NFL (along with Raymond Berry) in the late 50's and early 60's.NWebster wrote:How about Del Shofner, Bryan?