The Vikings secondary didn't have to do much in SB9, since the Steelers had so much success on the ground. Matt Blair seems like the only Minnesota candidate, Terry Brown's recovery was a piece of cake.74_75_78_79_ wrote:Yes, I thought of Matt Blair as well but what else did he do that game? Like many of these '70s runner-ups I would think a defensive player should be the 'MVP' but as I already said, many SBs won't have any recognizable losing-'MVP'. Thinking of SD/SF SBXXIX, I briefly thought about Natrone if only for his early 2ndQ TD capping off the long 7+min drive to make the game, if only for a fleeting moment, seem like it may be competitive at 14-7. Just 33 yards rushing, however, ought to make this one of those no-losing-MVP teams.BD Sullivan wrote:Foreman also had five catches for 50 yards. Again, nobody from the Vikes really deserves much credit. FWIW, Matt Blair (surprise) blocked the punt that Terry Brown recovered in the end zone for the only Minnesota score.Jay Z wrote:Foreman? 18 yards in 12 carries? I suppose he was better than Dave Osborn. Jeff Siemon maybe?
As for a notable (statistical, at least) performance on a losing team, how about Andre Reed in both losses to Dallas?
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XXV - Ron Dixon
XXVI - Kurt Warner
XL - Matt Hasselbeck
XLI - Devin Hester or Thomas Jones or Rex Grossman
XXVI - Kurt Warner
XL - Matt Hasselbeck
XLI - Devin Hester or Thomas Jones or Rex Grossman
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Re: Super Bowl MVP of the losing teams
This was an interesting exercise. Some of the Super Bowls it was difficult to pick out anyone from the losing team, and in other cases you could debate amongst three or four players.
I - Buck Buchanan, the Packers couldn't really handle him as he stuffed GB's inside run game and got to Starr.
II - Bill Miller, the Raiders didn't really do much in this game other than Miller's TD catches when matched up on Tom Brown.
III - Tom Matte
IV - John Henderson, one of the more interesting selections. If you watched the SB highlight video or read accounts of the game, you never would have guessed that Henderson had 100+ yards. His fumble in the 1st half hurt, but no one else on the team really stood out in a rather boring Super Bowl.
V - Roy Hilton, he was consistently in Craig Morton's face all day, giving Ralph Neely fits, drawing holding penalties and making sacks. Billy Ray Smith might get an honorable mention for making several tackles and 'recovering' Duane Thomas' fumble.
VI - Jake Scott, this was a really tough one. Scott forced a rather meaningless fumble from Calvin Hill at the goal-line, had a long punt return, and made several downfield tackles on Cowboy players. Manny Fernandez and Jim Kiick were other lame possibilities.
VII - Mike Bass, amirite?
VIII - Fran Tarkenton, completed some passes, ran for a TD. I have to mention Wally Hilgenberg, who actually made a ton of tackles in both SB IV and this SB, which is probably symbolic of the inability of the Vikings defense to get off the field.
IX - Matt Blair, another terrible SB to pick a standout.
X - Roger Staubach, got sacked a lot and threw some INTs, but also kind of 'willed' the Cowboys to 17 points.
XI - Sammy White, similar to Henderson in SB IV, White accumulated some decent numbers (5-77-1) in a losing cause.
XII - Lyle Alzado, had some tackles and sacks as the Denver defense did a good job of damage control. Probably not a good sign when your offensive MVP is Norris Weese.
XIII - Roger Staubach
XIV - Vince Ferragamo, his passing is what kept the Steelers off-balance. Jack Reynolds and Bob Brudzinski did a good job in snuffing out Steeler run game, too.
XV - Wilbert Montgomery, led his team in rushing and receiving, 135 yards from scrimmage
XVI - Ken Anderson & Dan Ross (co-MVPs), Ross set reception record and had 2 TDs, Anderson accounted for 3 TDs but had two costly INTs. I think his first INT early in the game was the big play.
XVII - Lyle Blackwood, this one was really tough. Blackwood produced two turnovers and had his share of Riggins tackles.
XVIII - Clint Didier, this was the most difficult choice of all. Didier had some success getting isolated on Mike Davis (5-65), but there wasn't really anything notable in the Redskins performance.
I - Buck Buchanan, the Packers couldn't really handle him as he stuffed GB's inside run game and got to Starr.
II - Bill Miller, the Raiders didn't really do much in this game other than Miller's TD catches when matched up on Tom Brown.
III - Tom Matte
IV - John Henderson, one of the more interesting selections. If you watched the SB highlight video or read accounts of the game, you never would have guessed that Henderson had 100+ yards. His fumble in the 1st half hurt, but no one else on the team really stood out in a rather boring Super Bowl.
V - Roy Hilton, he was consistently in Craig Morton's face all day, giving Ralph Neely fits, drawing holding penalties and making sacks. Billy Ray Smith might get an honorable mention for making several tackles and 'recovering' Duane Thomas' fumble.
VI - Jake Scott, this was a really tough one. Scott forced a rather meaningless fumble from Calvin Hill at the goal-line, had a long punt return, and made several downfield tackles on Cowboy players. Manny Fernandez and Jim Kiick were other lame possibilities.
VII - Mike Bass, amirite?
VIII - Fran Tarkenton, completed some passes, ran for a TD. I have to mention Wally Hilgenberg, who actually made a ton of tackles in both SB IV and this SB, which is probably symbolic of the inability of the Vikings defense to get off the field.
IX - Matt Blair, another terrible SB to pick a standout.
X - Roger Staubach, got sacked a lot and threw some INTs, but also kind of 'willed' the Cowboys to 17 points.
XI - Sammy White, similar to Henderson in SB IV, White accumulated some decent numbers (5-77-1) in a losing cause.
XII - Lyle Alzado, had some tackles and sacks as the Denver defense did a good job of damage control. Probably not a good sign when your offensive MVP is Norris Weese.
XIII - Roger Staubach
XIV - Vince Ferragamo, his passing is what kept the Steelers off-balance. Jack Reynolds and Bob Brudzinski did a good job in snuffing out Steeler run game, too.
XV - Wilbert Montgomery, led his team in rushing and receiving, 135 yards from scrimmage
XVI - Ken Anderson & Dan Ross (co-MVPs), Ross set reception record and had 2 TDs, Anderson accounted for 3 TDs but had two costly INTs. I think his first INT early in the game was the big play.
XVII - Lyle Blackwood, this one was really tough. Blackwood produced two turnovers and had his share of Riggins tackles.
XVIII - Clint Didier, this was the most difficult choice of all. Didier had some success getting isolated on Mike Davis (5-65), but there wasn't really anything notable in the Redskins performance.
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Ahhh. I see what you did here. I was about say "I thought he was supposed to come from the losing team" then I remembered that the acual MVP, Chuck Howley, was on the losing team. Nice job.Bryan wrote:This was an interesting exercise. Some of the Super Bowls it was difficult to pick out anyone from the losing team, and in other cases you could debate amongst three or four players.
V - Roy Hilton, he was consistently in Craig Morton's face all day, giving Ralph Neely fits, drawing holding penalties and making sacks. Billy Ray Smith might get an honorable mention for making several tackles and 'recovering' Duane Thomas' fumble.
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Super Bowl XXXIV - Titans vs Rams, how about Steve McNair & Eddie George co-MVPs? If those two, down-the-stretch, didn't make a pro-version of Tommie Frazier/Lawrence Phillips out of themselves, wearing the heck out of that Rams' D, forcing numerous rotations throughout...
Super Bowl XX?? Which Pat gets it (if any should; surprised that someone from SBXXIV was even suggested on this thread)?
Super Bowl XX?? Which Pat gets it (if any should; surprised that someone from SBXXIV was even suggested on this thread)?
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XXVII - Don Beebe (just kidding)
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Dennis Owens had two sacks for New England, but the MVP might be Rich Camarillo. He had a pair of 48 yard punts (no return) early, when the game was still relatively close. He backed the Bears up at their own 4 yard line with a SB record 62 yard punt. His overall average is not that impressive, because Raymond Berry ordered a punt from the Chicago 37 yard line, and he shanked it to the 20.74_75_78_79_ wrote:Super Bowl XXXIV - Titans vs Rams, how about Steve McNair & Eddie George co-MVPs? If those two, down-the-stretch, didn't make a pro-version of Tommie Frazier/Lawrence Phillips out of themselves, wearing the heck out of that Rams' D, forcing numerous rotations throughout...
Super Bowl XX?? Which Pat gets it (if any should; surprised that someone from SBXXIV was even suggested on this thread)?
I'm the one who said Humphrey for SB XXIV, and I'll explain why. I sure wasn't picking anyone from the defense. Elway was miserable. He was missing receivers left and right...and over and under. Humphrey was the Broncos leading rusher and receiver. He turned a shovel pass into a 27 yard gain
and then ran 3 times for 19 yards to set up Demver's FG, and his 34 yard run led to their only touchdown. All this while playing with cracked ribs. He did have a costly fumble, of course, but I really can't think of anyone else.
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Elway didn't have a good day, but when I watched that SB again recently, it seems to me that SF exposed his supporting cast (outside of Humphrey) for how weak it was. He didn't really have any open receivers. That may have been why Reeves went to the shuffle pass on Denver's second drive.I'm the one who said Humphrey for SB XXIV, and I'll explain why. I sure wasn't picking anyone from the defense. Elway was miserable. He was missing receivers left and right...and over and under. Humphrey was the Broncos leading rusher and receiver. He turned a shovel pass into a 27 yard gain
and then ran 3 times for 19 yards to set up Demver's FG, and his 34 yard run led to their only touchdown. All this while playing with cracked ribs. He did have a costly fumble, of course, but I really can't think of anyone else.
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What about Rick Upchurch for SBXII? His 67-yard kickoff return set up Denver's only TD.
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OK, I'm going to try for an All Time Super Bowl Loser-team.
A caveat, the change in rules mean that most SB-losing QB's put up great numbers, so I'm going to have a 21st century QB and a 20th century QB.
21st century QB- Kurt Warner SB 43
20th century QB- Roger Staubach, SB X or XIII (take your pick)
RB- Thurman Thomas SB XXV
RB- Tom Matte SB III
WR- Andre Reed SB XXVII
WR- Larry Fitzgerald SB 43
TE- Dan Ross SB XVI
OL0 that requires a little more analysis than I can give
DE- Kony Ealy 50
DT- Darnell Dockett SB 43
DT- Tom Keating SB II
DE- Lyle Alzado SB XII
OLB- Chuck Howley, SB V
MLB- Luke Kuechly SB 50
OLB- Cornelius Bennett SB XXVI
CB- Josh Norman SB 51
S- David Fulcher SB 23
S- Lyle Blackwood SB XVII
CB- Mel Renfro SB V
A caveat, the change in rules mean that most SB-losing QB's put up great numbers, so I'm going to have a 21st century QB and a 20th century QB.
21st century QB- Kurt Warner SB 43
20th century QB- Roger Staubach, SB X or XIII (take your pick)
RB- Thurman Thomas SB XXV
RB- Tom Matte SB III
WR- Andre Reed SB XXVII
WR- Larry Fitzgerald SB 43
TE- Dan Ross SB XVI
OL0 that requires a little more analysis than I can give
DE- Kony Ealy 50
DT- Darnell Dockett SB 43
DT- Tom Keating SB II
DE- Lyle Alzado SB XII
OLB- Chuck Howley, SB V
MLB- Luke Kuechly SB 50
OLB- Cornelius Bennett SB XXVI
CB- Josh Norman SB 51
S- David Fulcher SB 23
S- Lyle Blackwood SB XVII
CB- Mel Renfro SB V