"The Forgotten Four".....
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"The Forgotten Four".....
Duke Slater should have been acknowledged, should he not?
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Re: "The Forgotten Four".....
I think so.Versatile John wrote:Duke Slater should have been acknowledged, should he not?
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Re: "The Forgotten Four".....
Wasn't the focus limited to 1946 and thereafter?
"It was a different game when I played.
When a player made a good play, he didn't jump up and down.
Those kinds of plays were expected."
~ Arnie Weinmeister
When a player made a good play, he didn't jump up and down.
Those kinds of plays were expected."
~ Arnie Weinmeister
Re: "The Forgotten Four".....
I think the reason he might not be included is because he was an anomaly back before it was a true national league. Apartheid followed. The Forgotten Four were (along with Robinson) the cracking open of a door that was going to usher in huge cultural changes. Slater was a pioneer, no doubt, but he wasn't from that generation.
Re: "The Forgotten Four".....
Yes. Slater would be in the sequel: "Before the Forgotten Four" or "Forgotten More Than The Forgotten Four" ...oldecapecod11 wrote:Wasn't the focus limited to 1946 and thereafter?
It was about breaking the 'barrier'. Wasn't a 'barrier' at the beginning. Different stories.
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Re: "The Forgotten Four".....
I realize all that; however, Fritz Pollard was mentioned as a pioneer in pro football. Why not Slater?
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Re: "The Forgotten Four".....
There were others, many more, long ago forgotten sure,
but the focus was pre-Jackie, even though it might be tacky.
What were those names who played the games,
played it well but gained no fame.
Let echo now from shore to shore
"More Before Forgotten Four" quoth the maven, "Evermore."
(Sorry Edgar!)
but the focus was pre-Jackie, even though it might be tacky.
What were those names who played the games,
played it well but gained no fame.
Let echo now from shore to shore
"More Before Forgotten Four" quoth the maven, "Evermore."
(Sorry Edgar!)
"It was a different game when I played.
When a player made a good play, he didn't jump up and down.
Those kinds of plays were expected."
~ Arnie Weinmeister
When a player made a good play, he didn't jump up and down.
Those kinds of plays were expected."
~ Arnie Weinmeister
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Re: "The Forgotten Four".....
HA! I guess I should have been more specific in my original post. Since they referenced Pollard, Bobby Marshall, Robeson....I think Slater should have been mentioned.
Re: "The Forgotten Four".....
Nicely done.oldecapecod11 wrote:There were others, many more, long ago forgotten sure,
but the focus was pre-Jackie, even though it might be tacky.
What were those names who played the games,
played it well but gained no fame.
Let echo now from shore to shore
"More Before Forgotten Four" quoth the maven, "Evermore."
(Sorry Edgar!)
Re: "The Forgotten Four".....
Excellent.oldecapecod11 wrote:There were others, many more, long ago forgotten sure,
but the focus was pre-Jackie, even though it might be tacky.
What were those names who played the games,
played it well but gained no fame.
Let echo now from shore to shore
"More Before Forgotten Four" quoth the maven, "Evermore."