Todd Bowles: the next great head coach?

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SBXII, on the Elway-to-Nattiel bomb that put Denver up over Wash 7-0 on their first offensive play from scrimmage

You missed an X, although Denver did play in XII as well--against Dallas.

Other X just added on. Thanks.

[JWL]

Bowles has now played or coached for four teams that won 10 games and did not qualify for the playoffs-
1989 Redskins
1991 49ers
2013 Cardinals
2015 Jets

[Bryan]

The work he’s done with journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick alone might warrant an award. Fitzpatrick is smart, but he’s always started hot and faded late. Untimely interceptions have been his calling card.

A very prophetic statement considering what just happened. Fitzpatrick's passer rating actually went down this year from 95.3 with the Texans to 88.0 with the Jets. Bowles did a fine job in turning around the Jets this year, but I'm assuming much of the work done by Bowles in regards to Ryan Fitzpatrick has more to do with Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker being the starting WRs for the majority of the year than any great coaching from Bowles. Three great things happened to the Jets this past offseason...Geno Smith got his jaw broke, a 7th round pick turned into 109 catches-1502 yards-14 TDs, and Bowles was hired. I guess you can argue the order of importance.

[mwald]

The work he’s done with journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick alone might warrant an award. Fitzpatrick is smart, but he’s always started hot and faded late. Untimely interceptions have been his calling card.

A very prophetic statement considering what just happened. Fitzpatrick's passer rating actually went down this year from 95.3 with the Texans to 88.0 with the Jets. Bowles did a fine job in turning around the Jets this year, but I'm assuming much of the work done by Bowles in regards to Ryan Fitzpatrick has more to do with Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker being the starting WRs for the majority of the year than any great coaching from Bowles. Three great things happened to the Jets this past offseason...Geno Smith got his jaw broke, a 7th round pick turned into 109 catches-1502 yards-14 TDs, and Bowles was hired. I guess you can argue the order of importance.

Yeah, it's unfortunate for Bowles, the Jets, and Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick is a good guy but it goes to show how tough it is to escape from your true character, which usually reveals itself at the most critical moments.

I feel bad for Bowles, who put his team in position to win the game.

[JWL]

The work he’s done with journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick alone might warrant an award. Fitzpatrick is smart, but he’s always started hot and faded late. Untimely interceptions have been his calling card.

A very prophetic statement considering what just happened. Fitzpatrick's passer rating actually went down this year from 95.3 with the Texans to 88.0 with the Jets. Bowles did a fine job in turning around the Jets this year, but I'm assuming much of the work done by Bowles in regards to Ryan Fitzpatrick has more to do with Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker being the starting WRs for the majority of the year than any great coaching from Bowles. Three great things happened to the Jets this past offseason...Geno Smith got his jaw broke, a 7th round pick turned into 109 catches-1502 yards-14 TDs, and Bowles was hired. I guess you can argue the order of importance.

nitpicking, but Marshall was obtained for a 5th round pick

Also, I didn't like passer rating (didn't hate it, either) back in olden times. It is not easy for me to make sense of it now. At one time an 88 rating meant you were great. Now does it point to the guy as a mediocre quarterback or a poor one? I don't know. I looked at yards per attempt last night and Fitzpatrick was middle of the pack there or maybe even subpar.

[mwald]

I looked at yards per attempt last night and Fitzpatrick was middle of the pack there or maybe even subpar.

Passer Rating is a great stat if you stay within the era, but passing yards per attempt has changed far less over the years and is one of the few stats you can use today to compare QBs across eras---if stats be your guide.

[JWL]

Yeah, it's unfortunate for Bowles, the Jets, and Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick is a good guy but it goes to show how tough it is to escape from your true character, which usually reveals itself at the most critical moments.

I feel bad for Bowles, who put his team in position to win the game.

The defense was rotten yesterday. Chris Ivory not playing enough was a big problem. He needed to stay in that game and get 20+ carries. Stevan Ridley was not effective this season due to the injury he suffered in 2014. Bilal Powell was out. Ivory needed to stay in. Was Bowles trying to keep him fresh for next week, a week/game that may not come or was Ivory keeping himself on the sidelines? The "it's windy, so let's throw a lot" game plan reminded me of the last Jets hair pulling, fans-puking-in-mouth game (2011 vs Giants when Mark Sanchez threw 60 times). The first Fitzpatrick interception was maddening. The Jets were in field goal range and were down by 2 points. They should have been running or throwing only high percentage passes at that point.

Todd Bowles has to get some blame for yesterday. The Jets could have been like the 2010 Packers or 2011 Giants but poor coaching of the defense and mishandling of the RB corps led to this latest Jets disaster. Until something changes, nothing changes.

[mwald]

Yeah, it's unfortunate for Bowles, the Jets, and Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick is a good guy but it goes to show how tough it is to escape from your true character, which usually reveals itself at the most critical moments.

I feel bad for Bowles, who put his team in position to win the game.

The defense was rotten yesterday. Chris Ivory not playing enough was a big problem. He needed to stay in that game and get 20+ carries. Stevan Ridley was not effective this season due to the injury he suffered in 2014. Bilal Powell was out. Ivory needed to stay in. Was Bowles trying to keep him fresh for next week, a week/game that may not come or was Ivory keeping himself on the sidelines? The "it's windy, so let's throw a lot" game plan reminded me of the last Jets hair pulling, fans-puking-in-mouth game (2011 vs Giants when Mark Sanchez threw 60 times). The first Fitzpatrick interception was maddening. The Jets were in field goal range and were down by 2 point. They should have been running or throwing only high percentage passes at that point.

Todd Bowles has to get some blame for yesterday. The Jets could have been like the 2010 Packers or 2011 Giants but poor coaching of the defense and mishandling of the RB corps led to this latest Jets disaster. Until something changes, nothing changes.

No question, they couldn't get off the field on third down.

[JWL]

Until something changes, nothing changes.

Yeah.

Todd Bowles is coaching to the schedule.

Easy schedule? 10-6.

Tough schedule? 1-4.

I fully expect the Jets to lose to the Cardinals and Ravens. I hope they lose to the Browns. It is very possible. The 2016 Browns, should they go 1-15 with the 1 being at the Jets expense, would not be the first 1-win team to get that win against the Jets. I want to be able to wear a brown bag on my head with "Just End This S---" and "1-7 Ain't That Bad" when I take my son trick-or-treating. It would be reminiscent of 1996 when I went to a Halloween party at New York University. I wore a Keyshawn Johnson jersey and a bag that had "1-8 Ain't That Bad" and other things on it.

There is no way the Jets will make the playoffs this season. I think 10-6 would not be good enough once again. Finishing 11-5 would mean the Jets would have to defeat the Patriots at least once. It would also mean they would have to beat the Browns and Dolphins and 49ers. Now my #1 fear is the Jets might have some silly run at the end of the season like in 1974 or even in 2014 (a minor run that allowed Tennessee to get ahead of the Jets to draft Marcus Mariota) that will cost them a good quarterback again such as DeShone Kizer or Brad Kaaya (I'm not sold on these two yet but they could be good). Bad luck cost them Brett Favre and Mariota.

[7DnBrnc53]

Bad luck cost them Brett Favre and Mariota.

Actually, passing up Rison for Jeff Lageman (a good player, but a reach, and Kiper had reason to criticize them) prevented the Jets from taking Favre. If they take Andre, they don't have to take Rob Moore in the 1990 Supplemental draft, and they have their first round pick in 91 to use on Favre.