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by JohnTurney
Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:51 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: N.Suh
Replies: 6
Views: 327

Re: N.Suh

FWIW was only in top ten in PSI's rankings a few times, but did have "blue traits" in other seasons. I know early o n 2010-11 Suh got suckered s lot. He got trapped and few for draws pretty often ... compared to the best, but he did play the way a lot of coaches teach ... though the block,...
by JohnTurney
Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:49 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: N.Suh
Replies: 6
Views: 327

Re: N.Suh

Suh and Kevin Williams similar in a lot of ways, but think Williams has better case and he gets no attention, but Suh has bigger name and might (sadly) have a better shot Atkins is interesting since Bryan brought him up. He's the classic 3-tech and was also great. Oddly playing in a more pass rush f...
by JohnTurney
Mon Jul 07, 2025 8:24 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Can someone identify a magazine?
Replies: 3
Views: 748

Re: Can someone identify a magazine?

I had a magazine that apparently I have misplaced. It was from 1995 and I think it was to celebrate the 30th Super Bowl but it may have been a preview of the 1995 season. All I can recall is it had a section with box scores and write ups of simulations of three potential SB XXXs. In one replay Dall...
by JohnTurney
Mon Jul 07, 2025 8:05 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?
Replies: 16
Views: 1782

Re: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?

The 1980 Broncos lost running back Otis Armstrong to a career ending neck injury vs. the Oilers in Week 9. Armstrong saw only part time action during the first three weeks of the season but was inserted into the starting lineup in Week 4 at New England. He responded with an 80 yard rushing performa...
by JohnTurney
Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:53 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?
Replies: 16
Views: 1782

Re: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?

Maybe that's an assumption. However, when Ralston was there, I think he got final say, so I assume that Miller did as well. Buchsbaum seemed to guess how Ralston was listening to Carroll Hardy, and Miiller wasn't. Honestly, no idea how it worked. If Hardy was solid, it had to be because of pre-1977...
by JohnTurney
Fri Jul 04, 2025 7:47 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?
Replies: 16
Views: 1782

Re: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?

Outside of 1980, Miller's drafts generally weren't great That's on the kind side. They hit on just a few guys, and the misses were pretty big. That said, not sure it was Miller's fault. I don't know how their organization worked --- but you'd think he got final say ... but I don't know that for sur...
by JohnTurney
Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:36 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?
Replies: 16
Views: 1782

Re: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?

Upside is that year brought in Dan Reeves. Broncos brass didn't wait for Miller to correct he ship, they got a new captain and in 1981 LBers healthy and QBing better ... and a winning record ... Reeves was brought in because he was the same age as Edgar Kaiser, the new owner (he also changed GM's b...
by JohnTurney
Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:38 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?
Replies: 16
Views: 1782

Re: 1980 Denver Broncos- What went wrong?

First off, I think that QB was a big reason. In the draft, Red Miller wanted BYU QB Marc Wilson. However, they didn't think he would be there with the 20th overall pick. So, they made one of the worst trades in team history when they sent a first and second round choice (in the 1980 draft) to the J...
by JohnTurney
Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:47 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: What was the abbreviation for the Los Angeles teams?
Replies: 2
Views: 772

Re: What was the abbreviation for the Los Angeles teams?

in nfl standings it was L.A. Raiders and L.A.Rams

in NFL record and Factbook, sohmetimes tey'd just use Raiders and Rams like for leaders ... may not be just one thing
by JohnTurney
Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:35 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Don Shula's Best Teams
Replies: 17
Views: 2083

Re: Don Shula's Best Teams

Are we talking regular season only? If so my answer wouldn't change (1973) but other teams would rank higher in my view I don't know that I have a final opinion on ranking Shula's best teams but I did find their relative offensive/defensive placement interesting. PFR's listing based on points (as op...