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by JohnTurney
Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:56 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page
Replies: 6
Views: 171

Re: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

I still would go with Lenny Moore, Page and Dick Lane in retrospect, though Belichick is close. In the past he would wait till 2029? ... Ditka, Schmidt, Eller, Tunnell, Johnson, Taylor, Adderley, Bell, Robinson, Harrison, Youngblood, Haynes, Christiansen, Casper and Gates had to wait as well. dont ...
by JohnTurney
Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:55 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page
Replies: 6
Views: 171

Re: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

I still would go with Lenny Moore, Page and Dick Lane in retrospect, though Belichick is close. In the psast he would wait till 2029? ... Ditka, Schmidt, Eller, Tunnell, Johnson, Taylor, Adderley, Bell, Robinson, Harrison, Youngblood, Haynes, Christiansen, Casper and Gates had to wait as well. some...
by JohnTurney
Thu Jan 29, 2026 5:22 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page
Replies: 6
Views: 171

Belichick probably surpasses Alan Page

as biggest first-ballot snub. Tarkenton up there, too. I am sure there are others, but to me those are now the big 3
by JohnTurney
Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:21 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Belichick, Reid... then who for Canton?
Replies: 25
Views: 1767

Re: Belichick, Reid... then who for Canton?

Mike Sando @SandoNFL · 7h I'm a HOF voter who saw Belichick as slam-dunk. I don't know anything about voting results, but if this is true, and we'll find out officially next week, the question is, how could this happen? Before I list possibilities, understand this: Belichick, Kraft, Craig, Anderson...
by JohnTurney
Mon Jan 26, 2026 12:14 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 2025 Conference Championships
Replies: 49
Views: 1723

Re: 2025 Conference Championships

Brian wolf wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 9:40 pm the Rams special teams doesnt screw it up
they sure did
by JohnTurney
Sat Jan 10, 2026 9:22 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 2025 All-Pro First Team and Second Team
Replies: 7
Views: 765

Re: 2025 All-Pro First Team and Second Team

saw a few posts about Kittle getting a first team vote, causing McBride a unanimous selection.
by JohnTurney
Sun Jan 04, 2026 12:48 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Are you hoping for the Jets to get a pick? or Not
Replies: 7
Views: 647

Are you hoping for the Jets to get a pick? or Not

In 16 games Jets have not intercepted a pass ... never happened since became a stat--and likey before tghat, maybe a team that folded after a few games might not have had a pick from 1920-32 but if Jets don't get one it's going to be quite an "achievment" Capture_2026_01_04_09_45_11_813.png
by JohnTurney
Fri Dec 26, 2025 3:04 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: NFL Guide for Statisticians
Replies: 3
Views: 817

Re: NFL Guide for Statisticians

Thank you! So, 2025 is the first year they have included rules for scoring tackles, passes defensed and quarterback hits. Does this mean these are now official stats? I do see that there are a lot more assisted tackle and/or tackle assists than before, kind of the "Seattle model" for scor...
by JohnTurney
Thu Dec 25, 2025 10:49 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: NFL Guide for Statisticians
Replies: 3
Views: 817

Re: NFL Guide for Statisticians

try this: https://web.archive.org/web/20241126224 ... icians.pdf

if not I can email it to you
by JohnTurney
Tue Dec 16, 2025 2:01 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1976 Oilers
Replies: 6
Views: 1887

Re: 1976 Oilers

From 1975-1980, Houston had 5 winning seasons in 6 years under Bum Phillips The outlier was a 5-9 hiccup in 76 What went wrong? Was it as simple as the rest of that division finishing with winning records? Takaways were one thing, they picked a lot of passes in 1975, defensive FRs ... close ... but...