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by JohnTurney
Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:51 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Top 10 linebackers, 1950 thru 1969?
Replies: 14
Views: 3515

Re: Top 10 linebackers, 1950 thru 1969?

No love for Dale Dodrill? Granted he played in the middle of the line his first years and moved to MLB when they changed defenses late in his career. I think TJ looked him a lot, but I think he may not have thought he was a top 5 guy -- I don't remember all the chapters in his book but he was compl...
by JohnTurney
Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:51 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1974 - 1981 Colts "Sack Pack"
Replies: 5
Views: 1049

Re: 1974 - 1981 Colts "Sack Pack"

Did the Colts do anything different on defense in 1975 that led to such a huge uptick in DL sacks? Would you say that they flamed out rather quickly, despite all 4 DLs being relatively young? 1. Yes, Baughan's scheme was George Allen's. The playbooks are the same. It's a get up the field, play the ...
by JohnTurney
Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:13 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Top 10 linebackers, 1950 thru 1969?
Replies: 14
Views: 3515

Re: Top 10 linebackers, 1950 thru 1969?

Thanks for sharing. One question for you regarding Drazenovich. He was put into the AAFC dispersal draft, but he had been drafted by both the Lions and the AAFC Dons in 1949 and didn't play for either team. Wouldn't Drazenovich's draft rights still be held by the Lions in 1950? I'm not sure why Dra...
by JohnTurney
Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:12 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: HOF prelim, 167 names
Replies: 14
Views: 3480

Re: HOF prelim, 167 names

but lets say half of his forced fumbles were recovered by the defense, thats still 60 forced turnovers. FF = 44 INTs = 38 FR = 7 on plays that fumble caused by someone else FR = 25 on plays he forced fumble recovered by Bears, 4 of which was Tillman 70 turnovers total Note: in double-checking the a...
by JohnTurney
Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:57 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Last 2 way player?
Replies: 6
Views: 1755

Re: Last 2 way player?

NE Edelman 2011 playoffs vs the Ravens. Played WRer and DB Like conace21 said --- what is the definition of a 2-way player? He mentioned Someone who did it on a fairly often bases? Or just do it in a single game? Patrick Ricard is the most recent of the ones for whom it was a "thing" he p...
by JohnTurney
Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:54 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Last 2 way player?
Replies: 6
Views: 1755

Re: Last 2 way player?

NE Edelman 2011 playoffs vs the Ravens. Played WRer and DB what is the definition of a 2-way player? Someone who did it on a fairly often bases? Or just did it in a single game? Patrick Ricard is the most recent of the ones for whom it was a "thing" Mike Williams played 1 defensive snap a...
by JohnTurney
Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:31 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: HOF prelim, 167 names
Replies: 14
Views: 3480

HOF prelim, 167 names

QUARTERBACKS (10): Marc Bulger, Randall Cunningham, Jake Delhomme, Doug Flutie, Rich Gannon, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Eli Manning, Steve McNair, Tony Romo. RUNNING BACKS (31): Shaun Alexander, Terry Allen, Jamal Anderson, Tiki Barber, LarryCenters (FB), Jamaal Charles, Stephen Davis, Corey Dillo...
by JohnTurney
Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:30 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Best performances by players on a losing team?
Replies: 16
Views: 3557

Re: Best performances by players on a losing team?

Derrick Thomas has 7 sacks in a loss to Seattle Bobby Dillon had 4 picks in a loss to the Lions in Thanksgiving, 1953. He also got hurt that day. He's been notified that he'd been voted to the Pro Bowl team but back then if you got hurt right before the announcement you didn't get credit --- like no...
by JohnTurney
Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:12 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Top 10 linebackers, 1950 thru 1969?
Replies: 14
Views: 3515

Re: Top 10 linebackers, 1950 thru 1969?

I think I can give TJ Troup's 1. Burkus (went into the 1970s, don't know how strict you are for 1950-69) 2. Schmidt ... TJ thinks he the best of the big 3 of the 1950s 3. Bill George 4. Chuck Drazenovich 5. Nitschke/ Huff I think that would be pretty close How do you see Drazenovich being superior ...
by JohnTurney
Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:10 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Two Way Players in the 1960's
Replies: 5
Views: 1581

Re: Two Way Players in the 1960's

Harlon Hill was moved to defense for a year. Several others Abe Woodson. Johnnny Robinson, Mel Renfro so they ended up playing both ... but them and others you wonder the reason why... injuries to the other side of the ball? Giving something a try? I don't see a lot of evidence other than a couple o...