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by Saban1
Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:22 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Best Allie Sherman Giants squad: Carried over
Replies: 3
Views: 10019

Re: Best Allie Sherman Giants squad: Carried over

I think that some people that prefer the 1963 Giants team do because that team came closest to winning the championship game losing 14 to 10 to the Chicago Bears. I don't agree that a team is better because they played a team that was not as tough as the team that they played the year before. If Gre...
by Saban1
Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:10 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1967 Blues for the Browns
Replies: 107
Views: 258968

Re: 1967 Blues for the Browns

Speaking of football books, my favorite is, "The Best Show In Football" by Andy Piascik, which is about the Otto Graham era of the Cleveland Browns, 1946-1955. Piascik"s book is very detailed about the early and middle 50's Cleveland Browns. I loved reading it. Another good one is Ri...
by Saban1
Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:23 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1967 Blues for the Browns
Replies: 107
Views: 258968

Re: 1967 Blues for the Browns

Speaking of football books, my favorite is, "The Best Show In Football" by Andy Piascik, which is about the Otto Graham era of the Cleveland Browns, 1946-1955. Piascik"s book is very detailed about the early and middle 50's Cleveland Browns. I loved reading it. Another good one is Ric...
by Saban1
Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:18 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1967 Blues for the Browns
Replies: 107
Views: 258968

Re: 1967 Blues for the Browns

I am glad that he made out so well. I think I read something about that in Bernie Parish's book, "They Call It A Game."
by Saban1
Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:40 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1967 Blues for the Browns
Replies: 107
Views: 258968

Re: 1967 Blues for the Browns

I looked it up to see if the Cleveland Browns had ever lost twice in one year with the other teams scoring over 50 points (I have no life) and I could not find any. That includes even the new Browns. Some other teams that have are the 1950 Baltimore Colts, the 1954 Washington Redskins, and the 1966 ...
by Saban1
Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:17 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1967 Blues for the Browns
Replies: 107
Views: 258968

Re: 1967 Blues for the Browns

Back to 1967: Cleveland had to struggle in so many of their games, not including the games that they looked really bad in. Then there were the Cardinals games, the Vikings, the Redskins, The Giants games (oh yeah, they lost one of them). Every team has a bad day sometimes, but the Browns looked very...
by Saban1
Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:50 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1967 Blues for the Browns
Replies: 107
Views: 258968

Re: 1967 Blues for the Browns

I guess that when Art Modell traded Warfield to Miami for Mike Phipps, it was the beginning of the end for the Cleveland Browns as far as being a championship contender in the NFL. Paul Brown was right. Modell was a non-football person trying to succeed at something in which he knew nothing about. H...
by Saban1
Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:43 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1950's Detroit Lions
Replies: 94
Views: 151421

Re: 1950's Detroit Lions

Around 1954 or 1955, the Giants, aspiring to be a championship team, discussed what was needed to accomplish this. The conclusion was that even though Otto Graham was soon retiring, with Paul Brown at Cleveland, the Browns were still the team that they would most have to contend with (not making th...
by Saban1
Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:06 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1950's Detroit Lions
Replies: 94
Views: 151421

Re: 1950's Detroit Lions

Plum might have been the first example of how overrated passing statistics can be. He won two supposed "passing efficiency titles" but was traded for obvious reasons -- not clutch enough in big games. Could he have been better calling his own plays? Possibly, but even in Detroit, his leas...
by Saban1
Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:32 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1967 Blues for the Browns
Replies: 107
Views: 258968

Re: 1967 Blues for the Browns

The trade of Johnson and Kanicki also turned out to be a bad trade. Homer Jones had lost some of his speed, according to Fran Tarkenton. Ron Johnson could have been a big help to Cleveland in the years that Leroy Kelly was past his prime. Jim Kanicki only played a couple of years for the Giants, but...