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by Bob Gill
Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:58 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: A minor league Lombardi
Replies: 1
Views: 116

A minor league Lombardi

The Lansing All-Stars were charter members of the Midwest Football League. They won the championship in 1964, their third season, but for the most part they weren’t very good, and after going 2-8 in 1966 and 2-9 in 1967 the team folded. In 1969 the All-Stars returned, presumably under new backing. T...
by Bob Gill
Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:38 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Squirmin' Herman & family
Replies: 2
Views: 1742

Squirmin' Herman & family

Looking through articles about the Midwest Football League of the 1960s and '70s, I discovered that a player I had listed as Charlie Weidemeyer (a quarterback and occasional flanker who played for Lansing from 1969-71) is actually Charlie Wedemeyer, with no I in his last name. And when one article m...
by Bob Gill
Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:31 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: A novel idea in 1968
Replies: 3
Views: 3102

Re: A novel idea in 1968

I wonder where the MWFL got the idea. Good question. It may have been simply because the kickers in that league were not very good. I just checked the line scores I have for 1967 -- just a small sample, no more than one-third or one-fourth of the games played that season -- and in those games, the ...
by Bob Gill
Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:06 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: A novel idea in 1968
Replies: 3
Views: 3102

A novel idea in 1968

I stumbled across something this weekend that I’d never known before. In 1968 the Midwest Football League did something the WFL tried a few years later: It banned kicking for extra points. Teams had to run or pass; the only jobs for a kicker were field goals and kickoffs. Unlike the WFL, they kept t...
by Bob Gill
Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:04 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Bob Pelkington, scoring machine
Replies: 4
Views: 3728

Bob Pelkington, scoring machine

Bob Pelkington was a 6-foot-7 tight end who played college ball at Xavier (Ohio) and then spent six years (1965-70) in the Continental League and the Atlantic Coast League, the two best minor leagues of the time. In those six seasons he spent time with six different teams. Altogether he caught 159 p...
by Bob Gill
Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:05 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: PFHOF trivia
Replies: 15
Views: 9598

Re: PFHOF trivia

Seems like Willie Lanier must be one of them.
by Bob Gill
Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:13 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Quiz question: Rushing leaders and all-pro selections
Replies: 8
Views: 8055

Re: Quiz question: Rushing leaders and all-pro selections

Yeah, I've never been able to figure out what happened to rushing offenses from 1934 to '35. In 1934, given whatever number of carries was needed to qualify, EIGHT players averaged 4.8 yards per carry or better. In 1935, that number was ONE (Ernie Caddel). Doug Russell, incidentally, averaged 5.4 in...
by Bob Gill
Sun Jul 28, 2024 5:18 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Packers fatigue
Replies: 25
Views: 26097

Re: Packers fatigue

Sharpe getting elected could also help other players with high peak-short careers but it will be interesting if his election helps Dilweg, Lewellen and Isbell down the road? I know Isbell gets support but I feel he also could be cancelling them out as well. I feel Lewellen will only have a chance a...
by Bob Gill
Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:29 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Is the following record unbreakable?
Replies: 22
Views: 17717

Re: Is the following record unbreakable?

From Chris Willis' book The NFL's 60-Minute Men , page80: "...Lewellen punted 84 times in 1929. The breakdown was: 1st down (24 times); 2nd down (8); 3rd down (27); and 4th down (25)." That gives us some idea of the ration of punts/down during the time in which punting was used to establi...
by Bob Gill
Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:10 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Is the following record unbreakable?
Replies: 22
Views: 17717

Re: Is the following record unbreakable?

Is it known roughly when teams began punting for purposes like what we are used to seeing in more recent decades? It was a gradual process, without an obvious break, but I'd say the change took place from maybe 1933-48 or so -- and especially during the 1940s, as more and more teams switched from t...