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Simple Jack ... Craig injured his knee in 1990 his eigth season. He came back to finish the year but just hung on his final three seasons, a shell of his former self. He actually looks like Chuck Foreman and had baically, the same career, though Craig was bigger in the SB games Thanks Brian. I know...

Brian wolf wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:38 pm I hope Craig can make it ... total back who may or may not get Terrell Davis injury-consideration?

I am pulling for him! But why would he get TD consideration?

I think Roethlisberger is right in the middle, and I note that I have trouble pushing him because I think his rape allegations are real. Setting that aside, as voters are asked to do, I would be fine electing him and holding back the others, because I think he was a winner. Rookie year, took over a ...

Group 1: Brady, Brees, Mahomes, Manning, Rodgers Group 2: E. Manning, Newton, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Ryan, Stafford, Wilson Here is a look at the worst person in Group 1 vs. the best in Group 2 in each of these categories. In every category, the group 1 worst is so easily ahead overall of the group...

I still think there is a glut of QBs from the Brady/Manning/Rodgers/Brees era who are all lumped together and who voters shouldn't be considering until they go deeper into other position groups. E. Manning, Newton, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Ryan, Stafford, Wilson. I tend to think Ben Roethlisberger is...

I saw! As he should be. Thanks Ken!

Ken Crippen wrote: ↑Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:50 am

readjack wrote: ↑Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:16 pm Really need Clark Shaughnessy to be on the contributor list, not the coaching list.

Shaughnessy is on the contributors list this year.

Tasker, White Shoes, Mitchell — they're there for their special teams play. Brian i could definitely see hilgenberg dilweg and parrish as senior semifinialists, as for Tasker im not sure about him like you said id like to see Bobby Boyd as a senior semifinialist Special teams isn't a "position&...

Really need Clark Shaughnessy to be on the contributor list, not the coaching list.

And as much as I appreciate / celebrate assistant coaches, if they're on the list, then I think voters should be able to account for assistant tenures for head coaching candidates.

Greg Olsen was an awesome Bear who we should have never traded, as evidenced by him being even better in Carolina. He seems roundly regarded as a great teammate and good dude. I enjoy him as an announcer. I'm stunned to see him on this list. The 52 Modern-Era Players whose names now move to the full...

I'm looking now at the HOVG QBs, not counting 1920s/1930s tailbacks: Albert Anderson Brodie Conerly Gabriel Hadl Jones Kemp Lamonica Morrall Rote Stabler* I would be fine with all six of them in HOVG, but I also need Cunningham, McNabb and McNair, and all of that feels like too many. Even six feels ...