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I saw! As he should be. Thanks Ken!

Ken Crippen wrote: ↑Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:50 am

readjack wrote: ↑Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:16 pm Really need Clark Shaughnessy to be on the contributor list, not the coaching list.

Shaughnessy is on the contributors list this year.

Tasker, White Shoes, Mitchell — they're there for their special teams play. Brian i could definitely see hilgenberg dilweg and parrish as senior semifinialists, as for Tasker im not sure about him like you said id like to see Bobby Boyd as a senior semifinialist Special teams isn't a "position&...

Really need Clark Shaughnessy to be on the contributor list, not the coaching list.

And as much as I appreciate / celebrate assistant coaches, if they're on the list, then I think voters should be able to account for assistant tenures for head coaching candidates.

Greg Olsen was an awesome Bear who we should have never traded, as evidenced by him being even better in Carolina. He seems roundly regarded as a great teammate and good dude. I enjoy him as an announcer. I'm stunned to see him on this list. The 52 Modern-Era Players whose names now move to the full...

I'm looking now at the HOVG QBs, not counting 1920s/1930s tailbacks: Albert Anderson Brodie Conerly Gabriel Hadl Jones Kemp Lamonica Morrall Rote Stabler* I would be fine with all six of them in HOVG, but I also need Cunningham, McNabb and McNair, and all of that feels like too many. Even six feels ...

I would love that!

Looking at the 2026 ballot, it's possible that only one of the 15 finalist slots is actually in play. Here are the 14, who I will list by category and then alphabetically. Four automatic selections due to finishing in last year's top 7: 1. Anderson 2. Holt 3. Kuechly 4. Vinatieri Two first-ballot fa...

I would leave out Stafford, Rivers, Eli, Ryan and Cam without any trouble. I'm more partial to Russell Wilson but he belongs in this group, and if they left out all six, I wouldn't argue. I would put Roethlisberger at the top of this group more than at the bottom of Brady/Peyton/Rodgers/Brees, but t...

First is Brees, and there's a huge gap after him. I would go with Randall, McNair, Rivers, McNabb, Eli. I'm a hard no on Gannon, Garcia and Smith. How would you all rank the quarterbacks on the modern prelim list? Alphabetically they are: Drew Brees Randall Cunningham Rich Gannon Jeff Garcia Eli Man...

(Depends on criteria, etc. etc.)

But yes, true in many ways.